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Formatting
If the reverts that are occurring are sanctioned and normal (keeping the voting table fattened instead of tightening it up), then f*** this page. I'll read it occasionally because I watch the show, but if the table is going to be forcibly fat, then I'll make ZERO effort to make it something that America can use. Killermist (talk) 19:15, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- America can use it the way it was. There is a discussion further down the page about the tables. A Census was made that we want it the OLD way (we like it "fat").
Spoilers
I am just posting this right away as I've seen on talk pages from seasons past about people complaining about the spoilers this page has! Those who want to complain, remember, it's NEVER updated to the episodes as it airs on TV, it updates with the 24/7 LIVE FEEDS! If you do not want spoilers, then I would suggest not visiting this page prior to the episode airing if thats how you enjoy your Big Brother! :-)
Sorry do not mean to offend or be rude to anyone, just wanted to put that out there and although it may not work as people will complain about the fact there is spoilers, at least its posted right away and people will know its not the first time and will not be the final time. It's been like this since Big Brother 1 and will continue to do so until Big Brother ends! Demers-vachon 16:26, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Two Head of Households
Included separate lines for the two HoHs since each will have their own nominations and just one line for HoH and Nominations will get confusing. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 18:01, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- I think we should wait and see how they do it before making any changes to the table. --MSalmon (talk) 18:03, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- I was just going by the press release CBS has out which says they will have their own nominations its up to you all but I just was bold and made the table adjustments so if that is the case the table isn't messed up by someone who may not understand the code ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 18:06, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Made a few changes for now but we can alter as and when we need to --MSalmon (talk) 18:10, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Here is my thoughts on how it will work: HoH's nominate two people each, four HG's up. Battle of the Blocks takes place between both HoH's and their nominees, winning team gets immunity and losing team ALL put up for eviction (including HoH). PoV competition takes place as usual, three HG's are up after PoV ceremony. --MSalmon (talk) 18:24, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Made a few changes for now but we can alter as and when we need to --MSalmon (talk) 18:10, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- I was just going by the press release CBS has out which says they will have their own nominations its up to you all but I just was bold and made the table adjustments so if that is the case the table isn't messed up by someone who may not understand the code ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 18:06, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Move in date in infobox
Hi, until we know that the two groups officially entered the house on separate days then leave as Day 1 until we know more. --MSalmon (talk) 21:46, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
- They all moved in Day 1. The first group in the morning/afternoon and the second later that night. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.139.127 (talk) 01:42, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Actually I would say we leave the days blank for the second eight and just put Day 1 in for the first eight until the 2nd episode airs. Unless there is a source saying group two entered on x day then leave it blank for now cause no one officially knows. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 06:41, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- I doubt it will be on different days, if last night's episode ended with the HoH comp, then tonight's episode will will be the same --MSalmon (talk) 08:21, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Why was the Day 2 removed from the 2nd group of Housemates without discussion? The 2nd premiere episode clearly was on the 2nd day of the game considering Julie had a new dress on, new studio audience, and the 1st eight had new clothes on? ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 02:01, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Your kidding me right. It could take 10 minutes for Julie to change a dress and have the audience switch out when that audience is comprised of CBS and Big Brother workers. Most of the first 8 had the same clothing on aswell, so it's clear they all moved in Day 1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.255.112.182 (talk) 04:20, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Unless the Sunday episode says "Day 1" in the recap at the beginning then it should be left as Day 2 as per the episode that aired. The evidence in the second part of the premiere indicate the episode was filmed on a different day than Day 1. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 05:14, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with Alucard. The episode will start on Sunday picking up where they left off tonight, and when they go from black and white to color, the Day number will show up on the screen. This will give us confirmation. BlueDevil54 (talk) 07:11, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- The beds in the cave room looked slept in as well. I'm guessing they moved in on Day 2.
- I agree with Alucard. The episode will start on Sunday picking up where they left off tonight, and when they go from black and white to color, the Day number will show up on the screen. This will give us confirmation. BlueDevil54 (talk) 07:11, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Why was the Day 2 removed from the 2nd group of Housemates without discussion? The 2nd premiere episode clearly was on the 2nd day of the game considering Julie had a new dress on, new studio audience, and the 1st eight had new clothes on? ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 02:01, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- I doubt it will be on different days, if last night's episode ended with the HoH comp, then tonight's episode will will be the same --MSalmon (talk) 08:21, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Actually I would say we leave the days blank for the second eight and just put Day 1 in for the first eight until the 2nd episode airs. Unless there is a source saying group two entered on x day then leave it blank for now cause no one officially knows. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 06:41, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Inquiries
Who marked Paola as evicted on Day 13? How do we even have that information this early on, with the feeds not even up until late tonight? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.91.129 (talk) 17:22, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Don't know but it was removed --MSalmon (talk) 18:18, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Voting table
Hi, anybody have any ideas on how to do the table. Is it ok as it is now or does it need to be changed? --MSalmon (talk) 21:56, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- I saw you(or someone else, I really didn't pay attention to who edited it) made the BotB winners placed before the pre-veto nominees. I get why it was done and it looks nice now but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense chronologically. It makes it look like BotB took place before the nomination ceremony. Plus, when a new week starts and we have access to feeds for the whole week, how will we put the nominees in the table when they only have one row to be placed in? The point is that it doesn't accurately reflect game information. Brittany and Victoria were nominated. and then won BotB, the table makes it look like they were never nominated at all. I suggest reverting it to the way we had it with each pair of nominees being placed in their own box, then BotB winners, then PoV winners, then final noms. BlueDevil54 (talk) 23:13, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- It wasn't me who changed the layout --MSalmon (talk) 08:44, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure we need the brown color there for dethroned HoH. As Julie said, once their noms win the BotB, they revert back to normal HG status. It would also cause a problem if the dethroned HoH were to be nominated, b/c then they'd have two statuses at once. T (talk) 07:44, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- Removed --MSalmon (talk) 08:31, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure we need the brown color there for dethroned HoH. As Julie said, once their noms win the BotB, they revert back to normal HG status. It would also cause a problem if the dethroned HoH were to be nominated, b/c then they'd have two statuses at once. T (talk) 07:44, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- It wasn't me who changed the layout --MSalmon (talk) 08:44, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
In the table, wouldn't it be a good idea to replace "Head of Household" status with "HOH" (to allow it to take up just one line) and the "Evicted Day ##" be made to be one line instead of two so that the table could be tightened up a bit instead of so spread out? Killermist (talk) 12:20, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- Correction, HoH instead of HOH. Happy now? Killermist (talk) 13:45, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, please refer to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Big_Brother page for more information --MSalmon (talk) 12:27, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- I think the intent was clear (tighten up the table) even if the precise implementation recommendation might have been slightly off. This is why I ask these questions on the talk page instead of just diving in and making changes.Killermist (talk) 13:49, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
HoH order
I propose that we list the HoH's and their nominees in the table in the order in which their nominations occurred. Last night's Sunday show showed they did a random draw to determine who nominated first. Caleb won the draw, and made his nominations. Frankie then had to make his nominations from the HouseGusests that were left. Therefore, I have listed Caleb and his nominations first, followed by Frankie's. If anyone has an issue with this, please let me know. BlueDevil54 (talk) 05:31, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Hello, BlueDevil 54. I actually like the HoH order, because of the fact that Caleb did win the draw and make his nominees first. What I would suggest, however, is to have just the "Battle of the Block" winners instead of placing them under nominees. Technically, they aren't such after their victory and it just adds superfluous space. Feel free to say otherwise. Beside that, thanks for helping sort out this wacky twist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by King1559 (talk • contribs) 14:31, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- In my opinion, its not so much superfluous space as it is accurately representing what went on in the game. It still stands that Julie will tell two people they are HoH on Thursday and both of those people go through the nominations ceremony and nominate two people each. At one point in time, they were nominated for eviction. I feel like the point of the table is to accurately depict what went on in the game. Some years, the table will look a bit cluttered or have a lot of space to it, but its necessary in my opinion. for example, look at the BB9 table. Its rather large and looks a bit cluttered with throwing 4 names into one cell multiple times but its the best way of depicting what happened accurately, so its kept that way. Thank you for being patient and wanting to improve the article, but for the reasons I have stated, I'd like to keep it the way it is. BlueDevil54 (talk) 03:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 July 2014
{{|Big Brother 16 (U.S.)|answered=no}} AndSimmon14 (talk) 02:18, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- What do you want done? You left it blank —LucasThoms 02:22, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Nominations
I think that the nominations should go in order, on the table, of who nominated them. So if Amber is first on the table, her nominations go first. Then Devins. --Tech-Chef (talk) 16:47, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Agree --MSalmon (talk) 21:54, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
New Layout
Hey guys, just wanted to re-do the table again just so we can cut as much space as possible. I have decided to cut out the "Battle of the Block" row and just have a background color for the winners. Feel free to object these changes and revert if you like, but I would love to know what we think about this change.
PS, how do you sign these messages? I'm not a robot, just a new user.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by King1559 (talk • contribs) 17:29, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- I actually would rather keeping the Battle of the Block winners in the table. And you sign them by typing four of these: ~
{ [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 17:32, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
I second keeping it the way it was. and when you are in message editing mode you can also click the button that says "signature and time stamp" (when you hover over it) (Or as above says just type 4 ~) --Tech-Chef (talk) 21:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- I am also for keeping it the way it was before. The size of the table is mostly irrelevant in my opinion as long as the necessary information is portrayed. BlueDevil54 (talk) 23:28, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well, someone changed the layout AGAIN..I hate the new layout! I preferred the way it was before...But that is just me.--50.32.212.39 (talk) 04:13, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- I changed it back (Above (50.32.212.39) was me, forgot to login (oooops))--Tech-Chef (talk) 04:32, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Once Again, I had to change the table layout back to the old way...We all came to a census that the way it is, is the way it should be. Stop changing it back to the "smaller" version! --Tech-Chef (talk) 17:54, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2014
I recommend this article receive semiprotected status to prevent fan-fiction edits of votes that have yet to take place. These edits have no basis in fact and therefore should not be included on the page until results are officially broadcast. {Jmanphxaz (talk) 16:08, 14 July 2014 (UTC)}
- There is long-standing consensus that the BB pages are to be updated as events happen in real-time, i.e. per the live feeds. Tarc (talk) 16:18, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- I second the Semi-protected edit request. People are making edits based on discussion in the house. Not "official" even by feeds time. such as the Veto Ceremony (which someone keeps making it as if it happened already)
--Tech-Chef (talk) 17:22, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, "edit request" refers to an edit that you want done to a page that's already protected. To request that the page be protected, you'll have to request it at WP:RFPP. —LucasThoms 22:26, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2014
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Please change Day 1 to Day 2 for the following house guests; Caleb, Christine, Derrick, Hayden, Jocasta, Victoria, Zach, and Brittany. ZwooperGreen (talk) 04:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Declined: All the HouseGuests entered on Day 1 in real life. Putting them as Day 2 would be too confusing and besides, we have already reached consensus. Anyone have a better explanation? ~~JHUbal27 05:47, 26 July 2014 (UTC)- This is a tired rehash of an old quibble, there is no evidence at all that it was literally a second day when the last batch was let in. Tarc (talk) 05:54, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 31 July 2014
Frankie IS NOT currently nominated for eviction, Jocasta is. Please correct the wrong information. [1]
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Tmnt24567 (talk) 22:33, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
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Not done for now: Could you please provide an explanation for why you want the change made? Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 23:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
August 2 vandalism
After the Big Brother After Dark and in the subsequent live feeds, it was revealed that Christine won the PoV, but User:Bsem23 seems to have added an erronious set of data with Christine using PoV on Jocasta and Nicole putting up Frankie in her place. Viewing the Live Feeds, there is no evidence the PoV ceremony occurred at that point. It's possible that these are good-faith edits as there is a lot of trolling on Big Brother live chats. Calebrw (talk) 06:48, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- This Bsem23 user has been a mostly unhelpful editor on both this and the "List of BB16 Guests" articles since the show began. There are numerous attempts to fiddle with colors & categories (long been consensus to leave as-is, the continued insistence on a "Day 2" entry for the 2nd round of houseguests (they all entered at diff't times on Day 1), and the demonstrably false (Christine did not use the PoV, Zach & Jocasta remain on the block). This user never communicates and never uses edit summaries, so I'm not sure if this is a language barrier or a competence issue, but it is clearly becoming disruptive. Tarc (talk) 13:35, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Size of text in Voting history table
Currently the size of the text of the table is set to 85% and was recently changed to 80%. I reverted that in the interest of continuity with the other BB articles. Seasons 1–5, 7, 8, 10–13 and 15 are 85%; Seasons 6 and 9 are 90%; Season 14 is 80%. I know this is nitpicking, but I'm interested in keeping things consistent. I'd fully support moving Seasons 6, 9 and 14 if there is a consensus. Calebrw (talk) 01:30, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- Second--Tech-Chef (talk) 05:29, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- In my opinion, its not so much that the text size needs to be the same for every season, whereas it should be just big enough so that it does not break the page and cause the whole chart to not fit without scrolling sideways. Assuming this season will have another double like last season, it will probably end up having the same text size anyway. BlueDevil54 (talk) 07:15, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Voting table layout
Hello. Someone has recently changed the voting table and in my opinion it is a lot easier to read. What are your thoughts? What happens on double eviction if they remove the Battle of the Block competition altogether and just go back to two nominees? Then what will we do? ~~JHUbal27 08:20, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- The way the table is currently doesn't show who the two HoH's nominated pre-veto, this needs to be included --MSalmon (talk) 21:54, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've reverted it back to the way it was agreed upon. Seeing as the Double Eviction was the rare case for this season of only having 1 HoH and 2 nominees, the cells were merged appropriately and will now go back to this seasons norm of 2 HoHs and 4 nominees. If/When the whole twist is discontinued, the remaining cells will be merged to fit accordingly. BlueDevil54 (talk) 07:13, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
- Someone changed it AGAIN! I am gonna try and get it reverted. --Tech-Chef (talk) 01:07, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- It doesn't need reverting because it is fine the way it is --MSalmon (talk) 17:57, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- Its fine because I changed it back. Someone changed it to the smaller, more confusing way. I reverted it to the old way..the way that everyone agreed upon in the talk (The way it is right now) --Tech-Chef (talk) 03:25, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- It doesn't need reverting because it is fine the way it is --MSalmon (talk) 17:57, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- Someone changed it AGAIN! I am gonna try and get it reverted. --Tech-Chef (talk) 01:07, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
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Hello! Can someone please update the voting table? Julie Chen announced that the double HOH twist would end after next week's eviction. Thanks a lot! 66.87.82.129 (talk) 02:24, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
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