The list of 111 names could be ommited, and instead we write that Al-Mezan Center for Human Rights is reporting of 111 Palestinian killed. MathKnight 18:26, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- To Alberuni: Namial list is, well, a list of names. MathKnight 21:39, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Is that the English language - or Hebrew? Alberuni 02:43, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- English. Namial --> name-al. MathKnight 10:36, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Maybe I'm missing something. I'll assume it's just an ESL typo. Alberuni 03:01, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- English. Namial --> name-al. MathKnight 10:36, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Is that the English language - or Hebrew? Alberuni 02:43, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Palestinian miltants are not the same as Palestinians
Jayjg, please try to be more specific, not less specific, in your edits and try not to blur the boundaries between civilian and militant to justify Israeli aggression against civilian Palestinian refugees. Alberuni 02:42, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I'm trying to avoid POV labels that lead to edit wars, not any of the nonsensical motives you've attributed to me. Identifying the specific groups involved is an even better way of doing this. Jayjg 02:52, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- The specific groups are militants or Hamas, if identified. Why do you label militant acts as being committed generically by "Palestinians"? Should we label IDF acts as being committed by "the Jews"? Alberuni 02:56, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Just trying to avoid POV labels; if you have better wording that does the same, I'd support it. Jayjg 03:12, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- "militant" is not a specific group. Specific groups are Hamas, Islamic Jihad, al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, Popular Resistance Committees, Tanzim, Abu-Reish Brigades, PFLP, DFLP etc. MathKnight 12:25, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- You are using POV labels of "terrorist" without attributing them to the Israeli government. Please stop your continuous reverts until this issue has been resolved. Alberuni 03:34, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Actually, you've been doing continuous reverts of "terrorist" to "militants". Please stop until the issue has been resolved. Jayjg 03:36, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- You are using POV labels of "terrorist" without attributing them to the Israeli government. Please stop your continuous reverts until this issue has been resolved. Alberuni 03:34, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- The specific groups are militants or Hamas, if identified. Why do you label militant acts as being committed generically by "Palestinians"? Should we label IDF acts as being committed by "the Jews"? Alberuni 02:56, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Citation
When you are adding an event to the time line please cite a news source such as CNN, BBC etc. Al-Mazen can't qualify since it do not tells rather the dead was combatant or not. MathKnight 10:50, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- The events are reported and sourced. It doesn't matter whether the casualty is militant or civilian or Israeli. The casualties are never described as civilians. It's all NPOV. Alberuni 02:58, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- It matters very much whether the casualty is armed or unarmed, militant or civilian, terrorist or soldier. Deliberately and knowingly shooting those engaged in combat operations is permissible within the "rules of war". Deliberately and knowingly shooting civilians is not.
Lance6wins would you care to explain your deletions?
The material you are deleting is sourced. You are welcome to add to it. What is your justification for deleting it? Alberuni 02:59, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Perhaps you are referring to [1]. I do not know what happened there. Unreported edit conflict? Mulitple concurrent edits? I do not understand what happened. Thank you for pointing this out. Will fix. Lance6Wins 03:11, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)