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July 28
03:17:37, 28 July 2015 review of submission by Dodgetherocks
PocketGenie is a third-party BlackBerry software back when they were pagers. It already has a brief mention on the List of BlackBerry products. It doesn't have an article yet, but I want to write one on Wikipedia since I have third-party references for it.
Before I go through the page creation process, I wanted to know in advance if it meets the notability standards for articles. I'd rather not have to go through the threat of the deletion process. Is it too obsolete and obscure to include?
Dodgetherocks (talk) 03:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- I understand why you ask, but you need to research the topic and find references for it. We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources.
- Broadly speaking, two or more of those will verify notability. But why not simply expand the blackberry article if you are unsure? Fiddle Faddle 06:42, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- I do have a handful of references that I can name off the bat that do mention PocketGenie and its functionality: PC Magazine articles, How to Do Everything with Your BlackBerry by Curt Simmons, Andrew Seybold's Outlook, this article from the LA Times and this BlackBerry release. I'm asking if these references are enough for its own page for reasons already stated.
- I do not understand your exact rationale for why I would expand the BlackBerry page about PocketGenie when it is a third party collaboration. RIM sponsored it but did not create it. Dodgetherocks (talk) 15:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Dodgetherocks: I missed that.
- My view is that your references could well be sufficient. Fiddle Faddle 17:36, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Dodgetherocks: I missed that.
- I do not understand your exact rationale for why I would expand the BlackBerry page about PocketGenie when it is a third party collaboration. RIM sponsored it but did not create it. Dodgetherocks (talk) 15:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
07:13:02, 28 July 2015 review of submission by 122.161.20.51
- 122.161.20.51 (talk · contribs) (TB)
122.161.20.51 (talk) 07:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have dealt with this Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:56, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
08:00:03, 28 July 2015 review of submission by IFG
I wrote an article and it got deleted, I rewrote it and I want someone to check for me if its good to go. This is the link to the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Innovation_4_Impact_Competition IFG (talk) 08:00, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- It is correctly submitted for review, someone will get to it in due course. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:18, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
08:12:34, 28 July 2015 review of submission by 93.157.79.30
- 93.157.79.30 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hi, please, give me any more precise tips, this is my first post on WIKI. I have corerected it several times but no results (I get the same notices). Best Regards 93.157.79.30 (talk) 08:12, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have left what I hope is a useful comment on the draft. Fiddle Faddle 21:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
13:09:48, 28 July 2015 review of submission by Sulmarkmack
- Sulmarkmack (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hello. I wrote this article about Sullair taking great care not to make it subjective. The previous reviewer didn't see it this way and denied the article stating that it sounded like an advertisement. I contacted the reviewer to explain further because I don't know what is considered "advertising" in the article, and did not receive any further feedback. I have reviewed similar company articles and find no contextual differences. Sorry but I am confused. Can someone please re-review this article and either approve it or tell me with some additional specificity why it is an advertisement? Thank you, Greg Sulmarkmack (talk) 13:09, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- I suspect the tone. Look at the section "Founder" which is great magazine material, but unsuitable for Wikipedia. We require "Dull-but-worthy" and we don't need the material about Drucker. Fiddle Faddle 21:18, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Request on 13:41:38, 28 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Jothebulb
Jothebulb (talk) 13:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I am having difficulty locating references of national significance for my piece on Sunbury Skiff club. I am comparing this article two other articles in the same category & am failing to understand what I am missing. For example: Wargrave_Boating_Club Wargrave Skiff club article cites two reference: one is the club's own web page, the other is no-longer functioning local history web page. The_Skiff_Club The Skiff club article cites only one reference, being an article of one hundred years of skiff racing on the Thames in the 2001 ed. of the British Rowing Association's annual almanack.
Compared to these articles, I am not sure where else I can go to find items of 'national significance', to meet the criteria for inclusion. Is there any advice I could get to what I need to be looking for?
- @Jothebulb: No precedent is ever set by any article for any other. If it were we would have a brutally fast descent into idiocracy. Other articles may have arrived when less strict criteria were in place. They probably require improvement.
- Your challenge is to make the Sunbury club's notability stand out. There are many clubs, by no means all of which have Wikipedia articles. Fiddle Faddle 17:38, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
15:06:07, 28 July 2015 review of submission by 217.78.151.250
- 217.78.151.250 (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
Hello ... my article is currently not published due to a copyright query. I wrote the original information that is on my companies website where the bulk of the text came from. I have every right to use it so if anyone could press the 'okay' button that would be appreciated :)
217.78.151.250 (talk) 15:06, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- No, because we have no idea who you are. Please see WP:Donating copyright material for the route you must follow. Be aware that text for w website may not be at all suitable for Wikipedia even when donated. Fiddle Faddle 17:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
16:54:26, 28 July 2015 review of submission by Tank&sunny
- Tank&sunny (talk · contribs) (TB)
Tank&sunny (talk) 16:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I am asking for you to re-review it because I want that piece to replace the old one on Ruckus Wireless.
- That is not the way it works. Please edit Ruckus Wireless instead. Fiddle Faddle 17:42, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
20:19:37, 28 July 2015 review of submission by Krishanuthe13th
- Krishanuthe13th (talk · contribs) (TB)
The article got rejected and says that its not written from neutral point. I have tried to keep the article as factual as possible. So not understanding why it looks like an advertisement. Please help. Also the rejection comment says "should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed." I have cited news articles from well known news agencies in India. None of the references are related to me or created by the company on whom the article is written. It would help me a lot if you can clarify this point as well. Thanks in advance. Krishanuthe13th (talk) 20:19, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
21:43:32, 28 July 2015 review of submission by 27.106.41.25
- 27.106.41.25 (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
27.106.41.25 (talk) 21:43, 28 July 2015 (UTC) What is qiwam or kimam means? How does it's affect human body? Suggestions how to quit it.
- This is not the correct venue. Google is probably the best place. Fiddle Faddle 21:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Request on 22:44:37, 28 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Stevenlevine1
- Stevenlevine1 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hello there! I would like some guidance regarding a Wikipedia page I have created.
I first received a decline notification that my draft didn't meet Wikipedia's notability standards. Because of this, I added more references. I then received a notification that it had been declined due to incline citations. I thought it might be due to a Liza Minnelli quote that wasn't attributed to a source, so I removed that whole part. I also fixed some of the citations by changing them from "web" to "news," because I thought that might help, and I resubmitted. It was declined again for the same reason. I'm really not sure what to do and if there are any specific lines I should focus on. Also, since it now is being declined for a different reason, does that mean it now meets Wikipedia's notability standards, since it's no longer being declined for that? Thanks in advance for your help!
Stevenlevine1 (talk) 22:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Request on 23:17:53, 28 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Band Angeles
- Band Angeles (talk · contribs) (TB)
I am trying to write an article about a band I keep getting deleted and would like someone to explain how to do this I have tried various ways with no avail. Don't know what and where to insert information.
July 29
00:06:31, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Mvanmeer23
- Mvanmeer23 (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
Hi! I submitted my first article and it was rejected for too many references. I can fix that, but I have three quick questions that I can't seem to figure out.
1. The person I am writing about has published several books. I linked them to their respective Amazon.com pages, but those were rejected as being too commercial. I'm guessing that linking them to Goodreads would be the same problem. One of them has a review; but apart from reviews on Amazon, the other books don't have independent reviews. Most are e-books and don't have ISBNs; although two are paperbacks and do have ISBNs. What is the best way to document these books? Also, she is mentioned in several books, but I have the same problem. I linked to Amazon and gave the page numbers she's quoted on.
2. I have a photo of her and the name of the photographer who is happy to confirm that she took the picture and that it can be part of the public ___domain. What exactly do you need from her to verify that she took the picture and is willing to turn over the rights to Wikipedia and the world?
3. I asked a previous question here, and the response was really great. She said I could reply to her answer, but there is no reply button and I can't figure out how to reply. I want to thank her. If I want to reply to YOUR answer, how would I do that?
You can see that I'm a newbie; but I'm trying to learn and to do it right. So any suggestions you can send my way will be appreciated. :-)
Thanks, Mary
Mvanmeer23 (talk) 00:06, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have left a comment on the draft intended to help you.
- Books may be referred to with their ISBN. Placing the magic word ISBN next to an ISB Number creates the relevant links to all booksellers and sources.
- For the picture, that is your last concern. Read WP:Donating copyright material. It is only really relevant after and if the draft is accepted. Fiddle Faddle 09:40, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
00:50:28, 29 July 2015 review of submission by 149.254.180.115
- 149.254.180.115 (talk · contribs) (TB)
I feel as though I am so close to getting this article spot on for approval :) at first I received the decline reasons as not showing notability but I think I've succeeded in doing that. What I would like to ask is, what can I do to ensure that this article meets the acceptance requirements?
Many thanks
149.254.180.115 (talk) 00:50, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- References. For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Places where references are requested are marked in the draft. Fiddle Faddle 09:33, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
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- RAJIV KUMAR BHARDWAJ (PURI) (talk · contribs) (TB)
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Request on 04:25:19, 29 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by RAJIV KUMAR BHARDWAJ (PURI)
REG MY ARTICLE: ORIGIN & SIGNIFICANCE OF “PATITAPABAN” OF “LORD GOD JAGANNATH”.
FIRST: IT'S ALREADY COMPLICATING ENOUGH - COPY PASTE ETC- WELL DID IT ALL AT MY BEST GUESS, HOPE THIS MESSAGE REACHES PROPER PLACE. 2ND : AS INFORMATION TO AN IMPORTANT PLACE (LORD GOD JAGANNATH TEMPLE, PURI, ODISHA (EARLIER: ORISSA), INDIA. IS WORLD FAMOUS. THIS MONTH ONLY THERE WAS AT "RATH YATRA" FESTIVAL, ABOUT 40 LAKHS PILGRIMS. 3RD I WANTED TO HELP IN SHARING INFORMATION, FOR WHICH I GAVE A LOT OF TIME & RESEARCH - AS I HAD SEEN YOUR REQUEST TO POST ANY INFO ETC. ALSO IT WOULD HELP MANY PEOPLE. 4TH I PRESUMED & FEEL IT'S TRUE THAT ALL MY EFFORTS, TIME & RESEARCH IS FOR FREE & ONLY FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT. A KIND OF SELFLESS SOCIAL SERVICE. SO IT IS CLEAR - MY CONTRIBUTION WAS NOT FOR ANY PERSONAL GAIN. 5TH : I GOT THIS MESSAGE:- Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Timtrent was: This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner. 6TH: I AM NOT ANY WRITER, IN FACT I EVEN TYPE ON COMPUTER WITH ONE FINGER. BUT I UNDERSTOOD IT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY SOME PROFESSIONALS - EDITED BY THEM - VERIFIED THROUGH OTHER RESOURCES - AND FINALLY BE DISPLAYED FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT. WELL WHAT I FEEL IS, WEATHER IT'S LIKE AN ESSAY OR STORY OR AN encyclopedia article. MAIN MOTIVE IS TO BRING TO THE PUBLIC AUTHENTIC INFORMATION. 7TH : I AM FOUNDER SECTARY "SARASVATI SISU MANDIR - MARUTI NAGAR, PURI, ODISHA, INDIA". GURUDWARA, ARYA SAMAJ, VHP, RSS & SUCH OTHER VOLUNTARY SOCIAL GROUPS NUMBERING NEARLY 18. I FIND HARDLY ANY TIME TO GO THROUGH MY E-MAILS. FINDING TIME TO VIEW REVIEW FACE CONDITIONS EDIT, VIEW REVIEW FACE CONDITIONS EDIT, VIEW REVIEW FACE CONDITIONS EDIT, VIEW REVIEW FACE CONDITIONS EDIT ETC IS QUITE OUT OF THE QUESTION. YES I DO GIVE TIME & EFFORT (WHEN I CAN) IF IT BENEFITS MANY. 8TH : I HAVE DONE THE BEST I COULD IN PROVIDING WHAT I COULD IN MY WORK (YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT CALLED ARTICLE) "ORIGIN & SIGNIFICANCE OF “PATITAPABAN” OF “LORD GOD JAGANNATH”. I AGREE THERE MAY BE MANY WAYS OF PRESENTING IT, BUT (AS I TOLD YOU EARLIER IN THIS MESSAGE) I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL OR EVEN SLIGHTLY A WRITER. I JUST GO WITH WHAT FLOWS THROUGH ME. I AM SURE YOU MAY HAVE MANY PROFESSIONALS REVIEWING ARTICLES & I SHALL BE GRATEFUL IF THEY CAN SET MY WORK IN THE REQUIRED FORMAT. YES YOU ARE ALSO WELCOME TO VERIFY THE FACTS (WHICH I AM SURE (AND AGREE) YOU WOULD DO SO BEFORE DISPLAYING MY WORK. OF COURSE THERE ARE SMALL IRRELEVANT VARIATIONS IN THE HISTORY DEPENDING ON VARYING OPINIONS - I BELIEVE YOU MAY SEE THROUGH THAT - & LIKE I DID - STICK TO THE MOST POPULAR NARRATIONS. IF SOME LINES DO COME UP - THAT HAVE A STRONG BASE TO BE DIFFERENT- YOU ARE MOST WELCOME TO CHANGE IT - I TOO WILL BE GLAD IF YOU SEND / MAIL ME THE SAME - TO REFRESH / IMPROVE MY KNOWLEDGE. 9TH : I AM ONLY INTERESTED IN HELPING ALL, I DO NOT MIND IF THIS IS DISPLAYED UNDER ANY GOOD WRITER OR EDITOR NAME. MY NAME OR CREDIT IS NOT IMPORTANT. IF YOU FEEL YOU CAN GO ON TO IMPROVE & DISPLAY MY WORK - YOU ARE WELCOME. I DO NOT THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE MORE TIME. I AM HAPPY WITH WHAT I LEARNT IN MY RESEARCH, THE PRACTICE OF TYPING & THE KNOWLEDGE I GAINED.
RAJIV KUMAR BHARDWAJ (PURI) (talk) 04:25, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Several points in reply:
- Please use your one finger technique to type in sentence case. ALL CAPITALS is offensive and considered to be shouting. It is also unreadable
- No-one here is likely to pick up your essay and format it. If you think it can be turned into an article it is up to you as contributing editor to do this.
- No-one is concerned about any "Do you know who I am!" stuff. If you have hardly any time to do anything, editing Wikipedia is probably not a hobby you will enjoy
- Wikipedia requires topics that are suitable for its remit. It is an encyclopaedia and records what others have reported on. It doe snot take original research, however well intentioned.
- I realise this is not the answer you wish to hear. Fiddle Faddle 09:04, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
09:55:30, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Richard Falkner
- Richard Falkner (talk · contribs) (TB)
My article for creation 'Experteer' was declined on July 22nd due to the fact that it sounded promotional and the flow of the article was not good enough. Now I have made the required changes by eliminating the perceived promotional words, please let me know if this article now seems fine or further edits are required.
Richard Falkner (talk) 09:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
10:02:45, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Template:Elsie Birech
- [[User:Template:Elsiebirech|Template:Elsiebirech]] ([[User talk:Template:Elsiebirech|talk]] · [[Special:Contribs/Template:Elsiebirech|contribs]]) ([{{safesubst:fullurl:User talk:Template:Elsiebirech|action=edit§ion=new&nosummary=1&summary=You+have+a+new+reply+on+the+%5B%5BWikipedia%3AWikiProject+Articles+for+creation%2FHelp+desk%7Chelp+desk%5D%5D%21&preload=Template:AFCHD/u/preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=&preloadparams%5B%5D=10%3A02%3A45%2C+29+July+2015+review+of+submission+by+%5B%5B%3ATemplate%3AElsiebirech%5D%5D}} TB])
I would like to resolve the issue of disambiquity. The title James Smart is already in use. The james smart i am writing about though is a kenyan journalist.
--Elsie birech (talk) 10:10, 29 July 2015 (UTC) Elsie birech (talk) 10:10, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
11:34:13, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Tim B Haigh
- Tim B Haigh (talk · contribs) (TB)
I have submitted my first article for review and his been declined for :- "The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations." However, I am unsure as to what the problem is and thought that I had done this. Would someone be able to point in the right direction and explain what I have done wrong? Many thanks. The article is at :- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Professor_Nicholas_J_Lowe
Tim B Haigh (talk) 11:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- You do have inline citations. Though I would like to see a reference for the birthdate, and his family, as Wikipedia should only reproduce personal information that is already published. Also some of those awards are not very award-like, such as Who’s Who Among Executives & Professional, where you likely pay a fee to get an entry. Also "President of the British Cosmetic Dermatology Group of the British Association of Dermatology" is a role not an award. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:12, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
12:46:49, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Duch0404
Hello, I am new to editing in Wikipedia, and my article was declined, so I am requesting help. Sulfurboy (thank you for the review!) declined the article GrapeSEED because it read like an advertisement, and he suggested I ask for help here. I tried to write facts only. Can you please help me determine what is too subjective or what language is too much like an advertisement? If I had to take a guess at fixing it, I would remove the links to press releases and maybe the Training and Support section. The main body includes facts only, no adjectives, and it does not suggest that the program is good (just describes the history and what it is). Any help is appreciated by this newbie, thank you!!
Duch0404 (talk) 12:46, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Duch0404: Do not just guess. Do that thing! Then you will be able to see the wood from the trees. Fiddle Faddle 16:20, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
13:36:22, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Works712
Hi,
I've been trying to create a page for Nicole Williams who is a career expert, best-selling author, and the CEO and founder of a career development company called WORKS (which has been named one of the top 10 websites for millennial women). It keeps being rejected because the "references do not adequately show the subject's notability", and I would really like some advice on how to fix this.
She has published 3 best-selling books, was the official career expert at LinkedIn for 3 years, founded her own company, and has been featured in hundreds of articles for many prominent news sources such as the new york post, the new york times, the washington post, the wall street journal, forbes, and the financial times, along with many other magazines/newspapers. She has also had multiple appearances on the TODAY show, Good Morning America, CNN, Good Day New York, and Fox News. She was even the co-creator of the television series Making It Big.
I would really appreciate more specific guidance as to how to show her notability through the references (I have already read "guidelines on the notability of people" and understand that secondary sources are needed). However, there are not tons of "independent" pieces written about her; does that mean that she can't be considered notable or worthy of an entry? It really seems like being asked to appear on and being featured in such popular outlets shows that she is worth listening to and knowing about.
Thank you so much for any help/suggestions you can give me! Works712 (talk) 13:36, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have left a comment on the draft. Fiddle Faddle 16:15, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
14:50:31, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Steve Humble
- Steve Humble (talk · contribs) (TB)
I have added details required about my 'notability' as a creator of 'learning maths outside the classroom'. Evidence is given of maths walks and other activities.
I'm know world wide as 'Dr Maths' and have written a regular newspaper article - 200+ articles over 8 years
I have given references as requested.
Could you please help me with what extra I need to give.
Thank you
Steve Humble (talk) 14:50, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Steve Humble: You have a love of external links within the text. You seem to be blind to advice to remove those, though you have certainly handled a slew of other stuff, at least to an extent. You need to be aware that links to "Get it here" locations are viewed as spam whether money changes hands or not. Reviews go better when the prior suggestions are incorporated fully. You have a WP:COI, an enormous one. so your work will be handled more rigorously than another editor's until we have helped you rip it away. This is not a free ride.
- What most experienced Wikipedians wonder when someone pushes their autobiography here is why? What possible good will this do your career? I think you need to read WP:ACADEME to start to understand how this site differs from Academe and other areas where reputations are made on publicity of work. We record notable items reported elsewhere by independent reliable sources. Fiddle Faddle 15:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
16:17:57, 29 July 2015 review of submission by MyStromer
I'm hoping you can help me. My article was rejected due to my references. I have additional references but some of them are in German. Is it ok if I use these as well?
Also, one of my pics was taken down. I'm not sure why it was?
Thanks!
MyStromer (talk) 16:17, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hi MyStromer yes please use the German ones, particularly if they are better quality than the ones you have already used. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:21, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
17:42:37, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Rdickeychasins
- Rdickeychasins (talk · contribs) (TB)
Why was my draft was denied as being "not notable" enough? According to the notability guidelines on your FAQ page, we meet all criteria. The organization Blueprint Earth is very similar to the Critical Zone Observatories (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Zone_Observatory), who have a page. Furthermore, we have more sources and sources of a better quality than this page and many other pages already in existence. So why was a Blueprint Earth page denied? Thank you for your time! Rdickeychasins (talk) 17:42, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- First off, the discussion will only revolve around your page. Other pages existence or quality does not matter when it comes to your page. See WP:INN. The problem with your page is that it is not well source. First, the press release should be removed. Secondly, we need to see sources that actually are reliable and substantially or primarily cover the subject. Seems that most of the sources that are credible only mention the subject in passing. Please review WP:42Sulfurboy (talk) 18:05, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Rdickeychasins: No precedent is ever set by any article for any other. If it were we would have a brutally fast descent into idiocracy. There are substantive reasons on the draft itself. If you have questions after reading this please do return here and ask them. Fiddle Faddle 18:03, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
18:00:59, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Abhi2434
I am trying to create a page, but after a number of editing, I still cannot pass the page. Can you help me in this regard please. The page is at Draft:Insync Abhi2434 (talk) 18:00, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Abhi2434: It seems that Sulfurboy has given you advice via IRC. Perhaps your first port of call is on their talk page to discuss the advice you were given and how it has been implemented? Fiddle Faddle 18:05, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
22:41:34, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Sulmarkmack
- Sulmarkmack (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hello! The page draft that I submitted for the company Sullair has been reviewed back in February and was declined because apparently it reads like an advertisement, but does not give any reasons why. When writing this article, I took great care NOT to do this, only to document the company and its history as accurately as possible. I also reviewed and compared several other similar company articles with this draft and I cannot understand how this article reads like an advertisement. Can someone please illuminate me on this, as I do not even begin to know what I would do differently in order to have this article accepted. Please also note that I am not employed by Sullair. I thank you in advance for your input. Greg Sulmarkmack (talk) 22:41, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Sulmarkmack: Please scroll up. I replied to your prior question and an unusually skilled editor deleted an entire tranche of material. I ave reinstated it. The old link on your talk page ought to work now Fiddle Faddle 23:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
July 30
01:25:11, 30 July 2015 review of submission by 103.20.134.137
- 103.20.134.137 (talk · contribs) (TB)
103.20.134.137 (talk) 01:25, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Why my Request has Declined even i add all news References for my article why its happened?
Accepted the draft is, however, borderline at best. I have taken a gamble and accepted it. Please continue to improve it, for it does risk being nominated for deletion. It requires stronger referencing. For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Fiddle Faddle 07:21, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Request on 06:02:47, 30 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Oconna78
I have submitted my article 'FRIMO' to be reviewed many times but it keeps getting denied due to not having "reliable sources." I have included government documentation, independent newspaper articles, and information from a book (which cannot be found online). How are these not reliable, and what else should I add? Oconna78 (talk) 06:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Oconna78 (talk) 06:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Generally "Government Documentation" is regarded as a primary source. WP:PRIMARY allows for these in restricted circumstances, so that ought not to be it. Paywalls and outdated plugs simply make verification of references difficult. If those were the final hurdle (and I have not checked) then it seems to me that acceptance is the route, relying on the community to sort any problems out later. A useful route forward is either for one of us to take the decision to accept the draft, or for you to have a discussion with the most recent declining reviewers to discover with precision what they need to happen. Or, indeed, both!
- Since I have reviewed it in the past (or left a substantial review comment) I will not be reviewing it again. I am standing too close to it to be impartial. Fiddle Faddle 07:31, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
06:06:01, 30 July 2015 review of submission by Bjanson
I cannot see what exactly is wrong. Please specify.
Bjanson (talk) 06:06, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Bjanson: Nor can I, but academics are not my forte. I am pinging DGG who is rather good at these matters in the hope of their time and help. Fiddle Faddle 07:27, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
06:46:30, 30 July 2015 review of submission by Marcgdoutherd
- Marcgdoutherd (talk · contribs) (TB)
Please remove my name period. I don't want to see my name on this site ever. I have a show at the Salvador Dali museum and then the Tate in London and the Guggenheim and your talking about verification. Okay Many blessing to you and your family always. Marcgdoutherd (talk) 06:46, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Please place {{Db-author}} on any pages you have created that you wish to be deleted.
- It's very strange. You wanted an autobiography here, presumably to advertise yourself, and then decide that you will not provide verification. Instead you play the "Do you know who I am!" card.
- What you need to understand is that you have no control over a future article on you, assuming you pass our inclusion criteria. Fiddle Faddle 07:10, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
08:58:11, 30 July 2015 review of submission by Anubis2013
- Anubis2013 (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
The article was declined because of missing citation and footnotes - but I thought, I've made footnotes - what exactly was wrong??? Anubis2013 (talk) 08:58, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
10:39:10, 30 July 2015 review of submission by 93.157.79.30
- 93.157.79.30 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hi, thanks for information. When I've send You this text for revision there was the part Scuplture and Painting, now I can't find it. You rejected it or is any other draft version? Regards 93.157.79.30 (talk) 10:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- I deleted the "Sculpture" section, as it made no mention of the subject, and so appeared irrelevant to the article. You can restore it yourself; or if you don't know how, ask here, and I'll restore it for you. If you want to retain this section, you should edit it to show how it relates to the subject. Maproom (talk) 19:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Request on 16:15:33, 30 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Katsheron
Hi. I did a further edit July 28 or 29. Please tell me what more I need to do to get this article published on Wikipedia. I have taken out all statements that may be construed as "opinion" and left only the bare facts, which are verifiable by the references that I have provided.
Katsheron (talk) 16:15, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- As it says, twice, at the top of the draft, you need to add in-line citations that establish that the subject is notable. Maproom (talk) 19:32, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
20:24:02, 30 July 2015 review of submission by 2A02:A312:C200:BF80:1D1:A8EA:DF73:E5EA
Dear wikipedia help desk,
The article was declined for publication due to: "read more like an advertisement" and "[Must] refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources"
The data in this article was based what contains other company articles such as TuneIn or ChannelAdvisor for example.
The article is having 7 published sources on which 5 are articles from various sources such as online media, institutions and politics.
May you please list what specifically needs to be amended / adjusted?
Kind regards,
2A02:A312:C200:BF80:1D1:A8EA:DF73:E5EA (talk) 20:24, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
July 31
01:17:14, 31 July 2015 review of submission by The trail music
- The trail music (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
The trail music (talk) 01:17, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Basically my application were declined on my user name, also not being reliable with sources, all my reliable sources are within the project i have created with evidential pictures and also radio slots that support the forum.
03:24:02, 31 July 2015 review of submission by Olga Rekovskaya
- Olga Rekovskaya (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hello, I'm writing about our our ISS Art article which was declined again. Following the advice to refer to reliable secondary sources we've added a reference from Forbes.com - an independent and credible resource. However, the submission was declined again. Therefore, I would like to ask: how many resources do you recommend for the article to be approved? What level of resources should this be? Thanks in advance.
Olga Rekovskaya (talk) 03:24, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Request on 07:36:32, 31 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Anubis2013
- Anubis2013 (talk · contribs) (TB)
I don't know what the problem is - I thought I've made footnotes - what exactly is wrong with the article?Anubis2013 (talk) 07:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Anubis2013 (talk) 07:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
11:56:10, 31 July 2015 review of submission by JRR1968
JRR1968 (talk) 11:56, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
I submitted an article for submission which I thought I had entitled Barren Plains, Tennessee. It was created after review by Sulfurboy as just Barren_Plains which is too generic. How do I change it to Barren Plains, Tennessee.JRR1968 (talk) 11:56, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hi JRR1968 Such a title is only used if there are multiple articles about different places with the same name, thus it is not needed in this case. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:15, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
13:18:10, 31 July 2015 review of submission by Carvic65
Carvic65 (talk) 13:18, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Carlos Vicioso, Abelardo Vicioso's son. I've been trying to submit an article about my father's life and contributions to the Dominican Literature, but it's been rejected, in a few occasions. I modified what they required, neutral point of view, less adjectives, etc., and also added more references, important references, but still. Even somebody suggested me to make a shorter article, because he's a Spanish writer, but his works have been translated to several languages, all over the world. So his importance is not questionable. I'm wondering, is this how the world pays to somebody who contributed with his people, to have a better world, instead thousands of evil persons are acknowledged by Wikipedia. Probably that's why the world is like it is... I am a diplomat, assigned to the United Nations in Vienna, still with several occupations, but still take time to try if my father's memory is revived. Isn't my word trustworthy? I could find 34 references concerning to the subject, isn't it enough?
I would appreciate if you could help me with this issue, in order to be fair. To make justice.
By the way, this is my father's article (again): — Preceding comment added by Carvic65 (talk • contribs) 13:18, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
<content redacted>
- This isn't the place for a draft article. Provide a link to where the draft is, but first of all please read the feedback which you've already been given. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
- I see that you have submitted for review a number of different versions of your draft, including in your sandbox. Perhaps you haven't seen that one version was approved and published at Abelardo Vicioso. It needs improvemement, and in particular you need to get the references correctly formatted, see WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:31, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Request on 15:49:25, 31 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by JAS1127
I have been working on this Nephrocheck Test wikipedia entry for months. Revising and revising only to continue to get rejected. After this last rejection, it is apparent to me that the reviewer doesn't understand the subject matter or they wouldn't have requested the revisions that they did. When I told why this test was important, I was told it was too biased. When I downplayed its importance and added references showing why this is a scientific breakthrough I was told that I didn't play it up enough. I am getting mixed messages and feel like giving up on this even though I have spent countless hours trying to turn it into something that will communicate to others the importance of this diagnostic test. Is it possible to post it on Wikipedia with a disclaimer (as I have seen on other entries) that it needs additional information or needs to be edited? I don't know what that additional info would be, nor who would be qualified to provide it because the nephrologists that are using this test are very busy. Anyway, what can I do to get this entry posted live? Ready to give up.
JAS1127 (talk) 15:49, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hi JAS1127 you could get some topic-specific advice at WikiProject Medicine, that's where the editors with experience of writing about medical topics can be found (many of them are actually medical professionals). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:09, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
18:48:25, 31 July 2015 review of submission by Jmthf
Hello, thank you for your very quick feedback. I am wondering if my page was rejected because the information about my subject does not contain acceptable references or if my subject's "notability" needs more explanation, if his place in investigative journalism isn't clear enough - I would have thought that overseeing several Pulitzer Prize finalists and winners would be notable, as well as writing 4 critically acclaimed books. I may be answering my own question - do I need to provide references for all of this? Thank you.
Jmthf (talk) 18:48, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
- You have it in one. Yes. I have left a comment not he draft which may help you. Fiddle Faddle 05:27, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
21:03:58, 31 July 2015 review of submission by Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy
Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy (talk) 21:03, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
HOW TO INSERT A gOOGLE MAP INTO THE ARTICLE?Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy (talk) 21:03, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
- One cannot. Fiddle Faddle 05:18, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy Google maps cannot be used here due to their copyright restrictions, however you can post a request at the Map workshop for a map to me made for the article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:23, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
21:32:34, 31 July 2015 review of submission by Lifegami
To Whom This May Concern:
It was to my understanding that rejected wikipedia submissions were not made public. Today, Adam Marelli (The subject of a recent rejected article submission to Wikipedia) received a solicitation of work on his professional Facebook Page from someone who claimed to have seen his rejected Wiki article submission. The person who solicited Adam's page goes by the name of Tamsin Kendra. This was a very unethical and potentially damaging move on the part of Ms. Kendra.
The reason I am writing this to the help desk is to find out, first, who could have access to view Adam Marelli's article submission after it had been rejected? I know Wikipedia has many qualified and trusted editors that are able to view and apply reviews to article submissions (before and after they are rejected). That being said, is Ms. Tamsin Kendra one of these trusted editors?
If so, is there anything that Wikipedia can do to keep Ms. Tamsin Kendra from viewing Wikipedia article submissions related to Adam Marelli (specifically if they're rejected) or from soliciting work from Adam Marelli and making references to private matters on his public social media accounts?
If she is not a trusted editor for Wikipedia, is there anyway that she would be able to access Adam's Rejected Article submission?
I'm not sure if the circumstances surrounding this matter are legal or not, but, to me, it is certainly unethical and, in my opinion, not in accordance with Wikipedia values and standards of integrity.
What can Wikipedia (Administrators, bureaucrats, decision-makers, etc.) recommend to help resolve this matter? We enjoy celebrating the Wikipedia community and would like to see trust restored.
Lifegami (talk) 21:32, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
- Your understanding is flawed. Any and all submissions of every sort on Wikipedia are 100% public. Any person may view any page at all.
- If you have a dispute with someone on Facebook, please keep that dispute to Facebook or to a real life interaction with that person.
- You need to be aware that Wikipedia takes even the hint of a legal threat very seriously. Please see WP:NOLEGALTHREATS
- Because I perceive that you have issued either a legal threat, or a set of words preparatory to issuing a legal threat, it is necessary to take further action. I am about to take that action, and will notify you on your own talk page of the discussion venue. Please do not make further posts here, on this page, until the matter is resolved. Fiddle Faddle 05:06, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- There is no legal threat there Tim. Lifegami, everything anyone on Wikipedia does is public. Chillum 05:13, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- There appears to be the intent to utter a legal threat. The words "I'm not sure if the circumstances surrounding this matter are legal or not" indicate that the editor is so minded. Since we may not ignore the matter I have raised it at WP:ANI to allow others better qualified than am I to make the call.
- The implied threat is not against Wikipedia, it is against Tamsin Kendra. If the OP decides to sue that person (who appears to be soliciting payment for getting an article accepted), we should wish him success - though frankly, I doubt she has committed any crime. Maproom (talk) 16:13, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- This is about the scam where authors of declined drafts are approached by people claiming to be "senior editors" who demand payment to get the draft approved. @Lifegami: it seems the rather long-winded circumlocution and legalese language of your initial post here lead to misunderstanding. Had you said in plainer language, something like: "Someone claiming to be a "trusted editor" approached me with an offer to approve the draft for payment" we would have immediately understood. The legal department of the Wikimedia Foundation (owners of Wikipedia) is aware of the issue.
- To summarize; everything on Wikipedia (with very few specific exceptions) is fully accessible to anyone. Anyone claiming to be a "trusted editor" and asking for payment to get a declined draft approved is a scammer attempting extortion. There are a variety of venues on Wikipedia where anyone can get completely free advice and assistance with any aspect of writing an article here - one of them being this page. Except for the brief period of the annual fundraising campaign "advertisements", you will never be asked for money and certainly never in exchange for any work done. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:52, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
August 1
Request on 10:40:48, 1 August 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Dileep Kumar Tiwari
- Dileep Kumar Tiwari (talk · contribs) (TB)
Dileep Kumar Tiwari (talk) 10:40, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not the place to promote your personal web site.
Declined and speedy deletion as an advert has been requested. This is going nowhere. Fiddle Faddle 13:35, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
11:34:50, 1 August 2015 review of submission by C.T. Jasper
- C.T. Jasper (talk · contribs) (TB)
Dear Sirs,
I am writing to you according the article on the artist C.T. Jasper. It has been declined, because earlier another submission with the same title had been sent for review. The first article was written by an intern who has forgotten the log in data, so now unfortunately I am unable to edit the first draft of the article and I had to create new account. I would be very grateful, if you could delete the first account, so the second version of the article could be reviewed.
Sincerely, Olga Guzik-Podlewska (assistant at Le Guern Gallery, Warsaw - representing the artist) C.T. Jasper (talk) 11:34, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- @C.T. Jasper There is no reason why you could not continue editing the first draft using your new account - a draft is not "tied" to a specific user account. However, your current username is not acceptable. Only C.T. Jasper himself is allowed to use his own name here. I will post information to your Talk page about getting your username changed. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:15, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
11:37:46, 1 August 2015 review of submission by Fitsum Gebremariam
- Fitsum Gebremariam (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
Fitsum Gebremariam (talk) 11:37, 1 August 2015 (UTC) why is article rejected?
- First of all you have submitted it twice. We will review Draft:Fitsum Gebremariam in the future. Please visit it and see the reason in the comment at the head. Fiddle Faddle 13:22, 1 August 2015 (UTC)reply
14:24:14, 1 August 2015 review of submission by Bridget0727
- Bridget0727 (talk · contribs) (TB)
I submitted my article as I need assistance with citations. My in-text citations are adding as notes and I don't know which is correct nor how to repair. My article is not complete but I need some assistance please!
Bridget0727 (talk) 14:24, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Bridget0727, your inline citations are correct, please continue doing them like that. Inline citations are actually preferred over a simple list at the end of the article. The minor formatting errors can be fixed in due course. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:00, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
17:58:45, 1 August 2015 review of submission by Bling Art
Bling Art (talk) 17:58, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
My article was declined after only 10 seconds after sending it ?????
How could someone review it after only 10 seconds.
Please advise
- comment I've answered both questions on my talk page: It wasn't in 10 seconds, more like a minute; there are 3 source that it was easy to check in that time as being non independent sources; the text is a copy vio from http://www.artofbling.com/about.html KylieTastic (talk) 18:52, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
18:35:05, 1 August 2015 review of submission by Dannydarkly
- Dannydarkly (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
I am not sure what the question is regarding my submitted entry... advise..thank you
Dannydarkly (talk) 18:35, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- Your article has no references. Please read the decline box at the top of the page for links to pages that can help you. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:47, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
August 2
14:49:39, 2 August 2015 review of submission by Rogcoll007
- Rogcoll007 (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
Rogcoll007 (talk) 14:49, 2 August 2015 (UTC) Hello I am baffled why the submission on Macedonian Aviation United Kingdom was declined It is a most interesting part of modern aviation history and submitted by a member who knew the airline from it's formation to it's end. If l have made a mistake it is because at 70 years of age l am not computer savvy Regards Roger
- Please link to the article you are discussing. I cannot find it in your user contributions. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:45, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
21:20:22, 2 August 2015 review of submission by Breton66
I am not requesting a re-review. I am requesting more guidance, as I don't see where my entry fails to follow WPMOS. If you could provide some clearer indications of exactly where the article falls down, that would be greatly appreciated.
Regards Jonathan. Breton66 (talk) 21:20, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- I assume the rejection was done in terms of your reference style. I would suggest reading WP:REFSTART. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:44, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
August 3
01:25:31, 3 August 2015 review of submission by JasmineJLM7
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Hello, good morning! I've already edited my draft according to the pointers I were given. I'm unsure of what it is still rejected. May I ask for another person to relook at it? Thank you! JasmineJLM7 (talk) 01:25, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
JasmineJLM7 (talk) 01:25, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
07:50:21, 3 August 2015 review of submission by Pcbali
Pcbali (talk) 07:50, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
One of my article has been declines on being "describing about my self". While I a social worker and had made much Litigation for Public Cause in Indian Courts, i wanted to make people know, how we can be successful in bringing social change though process of Law. But before I could add the details, my article was declined by some administrator in hurry. I think it should be allowed or should be deleted after 24 hours or more when it is fully edited. On primary stage, deleting an article is not appreciated.
Further already their are so many articles. One of such Article is "Hemant Goswami" The person is living and all the information is personal achievements. If this article is approved, I have appeal for Equality and fair justice.
- You should use the sandbox to create articles from now on, once they are placed on a draft page or submitted for AfC, then this opens them up to being speedy deleted and or declined. Please also understand that just because another article exists doesn't mean another one should exist. No article has any bearing or merit on whether another article should exist. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:42, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Request on 14:43:52, 3 August 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Cmireland
I have submitted the article four different times. Each time I have asked for help and received help in writing the article according to the guidelines. After having the article reviewed by someone in the help chat I submit it and it keeps getting declined because it isn't "Notable" All of the articles I have posted are third party articles from magazines etc that back up the information from the article. I do not know what else to do to get this article posted.
Cmireland (talk) 14:43, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've approved it. It was borderline last time I reviewed it. I'm not sure why it was rejected last time, you would specifically have to ask that editor. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:38, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
15:01:05, 3 August 2015 review of submission by Robert McClenon
- Robert McClenon (talk · contribs) (TB)
I reviewed Draft:PULSAR: Lost Colony and declined it, saying that it did not provide adequate evidence of notability. The author questioned the decline on my talk page, User talk:Robert McClenon. I suggested that he find reviews. He said that the game is in pre-Beta, but said that it is notable and that other games in pre-Beta are listed. I am requesting that other reviewers either agree with me and explain to the author, or agree with the author and accept the article. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:01, 3 August 2015 (UTC) Robert McClenon (talk) 15:01, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'd be a bit careful how you phrase this, it's borderline WP:CANVAS. If he keeps submitting without fixing anything just submit it to AfD. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:34, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- It truly is not canvassing to ask people to agree with one person or another, It is impartial. Fiddle Faddle 15:59, 3 August 2015 (UTC)