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Suggestions for improving the article
Screenshots anyone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Int19h (talk • contribs) 09:36, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
Tutorials
Are there any good "Introduction to Xcode"-type tutorials out there? It would be helpful for this article to provide links to them, so that beginning users can learn how to compile simple projects in Xcode. I came here looking for that kind of information, and was disappointed. GPS Pilot 00:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Needs expansion
This article needs a great deal of expansion and should be tagged appropriately. It isn't clear to me how to tag it, though; I feel it's already beyond a stub. -- Steven Fisher 22:55, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Mac OS X 10.5 / Xcode 3.0
I'm not sure Mac OS X 10.5 and Xcode 3 should be listed in the infobox, since this software isn't released yet. -- Steven Fisher 05:58, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- The infobox_software template has fields that we can set for a "preview release"; I've filled those out. Hopefully that will reduce the ambiguity of 3.0 a little bit... -/- Warren 07:10, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Front end vs. include
The phrasing "Xcode is a front-end for GNU Compiler Collection (GCC)" implies a 1:1 relationship. Includes means contains, which is certainly true of Xcode - the Xcode install includes gcc. -- Steven Fisher 01:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
The Xcode install, yes, but Xcode itself, no, imho. Xcode doesn't include gcc more than it includes Interface Builder, gdb, or documentation. gcc still runs without problem if Xcode is removed. But whatever... Engelec 20:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- What exactly do you think "include" means? Please go look up "include" in a dictionary. Thanks. -- Steven Fisher 15:33, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- I think exactly the same as the New Oxford American Dictionary: comprise or contain as part of a whole. Xcode.app doesn't include gcc (I've just checked with
findeven if I knew it already), I bet it doesn't need it, and gcc definitively doesn't need Xcode. And while I'm at it, I don't subscribe to the 1:1 relationship of front-end/back-end. Mathematica, for instance, has a front-end for MathKernel, but MathKernel is also used without this front-end in products such as webMathematica. And ddd is one of many front-ends for gdb, according to ddd home page.Engelec 23:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- I think exactly the same as the New Oxford American Dictionary: comprise or contain as part of a whole. Xcode.app doesn't include gcc (I've just checked with
- Try gcc before and after the Xcode install. Thus, included. -- Steven Fisher 23:56, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, then if "Xcode" means the whole development tool suite installed with the Xcode package, which is debatable if you read Apple documentation, Xcode also includes Interface Builder. My first reply above wasn't that wrong.Engelec 00:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oh! I see where you're coming from. I think, then, that the intro sentence needs updating (Xcode is the IDE or the name of the developer tools package), and the includes needs to be reworded as well. -- Steven Fisher 05:06, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, this is not ideal, but I think it is a step in the right direction at least. What do you think? - Steven Fisher 05:28, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- It's fine by me, thanks. Sorry for not having been clearer from the start.Engelec 09:32, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Off topic, but...
I'd be interested in any comments/edits to User:Maury Markowitz/ObjC wishlist. Thanks! Maury 14:23, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Samba's distcc?
I know distcc is a separate project, by I can't find any evidence that it belongs to Samba (as opposed to just being hosted there at some point in the past). Can someone provide some? -- Steven Fisher 21:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- Found it. distcc.c contains a notice indicating copyright is held by Martin Pool, not Samba. -- Steven Fisher 21:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
History
I don't like the way the history article is a See Also. It seems it should be an expansion of a section here. I've been considering moving some of the historical data (such as the origins of Xcode as Developer Tools/Project Builder and NeXT) and some of the dated information into a History of Xcode section. Does it really matter for the lead, for instance, that Xcode 2.1 was the first version to support Intel, compared to Xcode supporting Intel? What do you think? -- Steven Fisher 16:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)