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Arizona Republic

I'm hoping someone with access to Highbeam or some other subscription news aggregator can help me improve Lion Guard by finding a specific source:

  • McDermott, J. "Trump’s Brownshirts? Militia vows to 'protect' Donald Trump", Arizona Republic, 13 June 2016

I'm at a loss. Not only can I not find the source, but I can't even find any evidence online that it ever existed. Can someone please find the source and confirm that it actually exists? Thanks in advance. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 04:29, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I was thinking. And I already looking in azcentral.newspapers.com. Are there other subscription services in which you can search for an article title across all publications and dates? That's why I was thinking of Highbeam. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 05:31, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@DrFleischman: I checked Highbeam, nothing there either. I also checked newspapers.com as well but there is no article that mentions "trump" and "brownshirts" in the Arizona Republic, ever (only one opinion piece from Dec 2016 that has nothing to do with the article in question). Regards SoWhy 06:57, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Have you asked User:OberRanks yet? It seems he's the one who added that reference in the article, and he's still on Wikipedia, so maybe he can help you. (Seems like a dubiously reliable user, with a 10000 edit count and a prominent 20000 edits badge on his user page.) – b_jonas 12:10, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't asked OberRanks about this particular source yet, though I was intending to if we couldn't find it here. OberRanks and I have had our share of friction over these very sorts of issues lately, and I didn't want to add fuel to the fire unnecessarily. Of course I'd be appreciative if they could substantiate the citation. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 15:59, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The page Talk:Lion Guard is a pretty good record of Fleischman's concerns for this article. The "friction" is pretty much one sided as I've answered every question given about the sources for this article and where they came from. I'm perfectly fine with removing dubious or unsourced material, but have left this article now as there is a strong indication of some conflict of interest issues developing. The best thing would be for other editors to start adding additional material. I've gone about as far as I can with the primary source material, most of which was given to me by another source (the Maryland Republican Party). I also removed the page from watchlist as its not worth the effort to defend every source listed. -O.R.Comms 16:52, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I checked Westlaw, which has the Arizona Republic in full text from this period, and there was nothing. There were a handful of articles covering the Lion Guard from other publications, but nothing with this title. It may be time to mark this request Resolved and move on. I see no reason to doubt OberRanks' probity, but I think O.R. may have been given a bad source. John M Baker (talk) 14:14, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@DrFleischman: I came to the conclusion that it's a bogus source after checking ProQuest (which claims to have the full text of the The Arizona Republic, plus its online edition, plus its blogs) and searching ProQuest, Factiva, Lexis/Nexis, and NewsBank for any combination of the above keywords in any publication on any date, without finding a good match. As OberRanks is not prepared to defend the source, I think it's safe to remove it and any content sourced to it. Is there anything else the Resource Exchange can do for you on this, or may this be marked {{resolved}}? --Worldbruce (talk) 15:44, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

{{resolved}} Thank you all for your exhaustive efforts. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:06, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

October 2017

Assistance verifying Financial Times reference

{{Resolved}}

Today's "Did you Know?" section on the front page states that "the Border Police of Georgia have continued to help enforce Georgian sovereignty over Abkhazia and South Ossetia since the end of the Russo-Georgian War".

This statement seems potentially contentious because Abkhazia and South Ossetia have claimed independence from Georgia and are recognized as independent states by a handful of other countries (most notably Russia). It is also unclear what exactly is meant by "help enforce Georgian sovereignty".

Looking at the linked article, Border Police of Georgia, it turned out that the part of claim pertaining to South Ossetia had a reference that did not support the claim so I removed it. (In fact the cited source was a news article about an incident where South Ossetians removed a Georgian flag from disputed territory claimed by South Ossetia, and did not mention the Georgian border police at all.)

The fact that the first reference was invalid calls into question the second reference in this sentence. However, the second reference is behind a paywall so I am not able to access it.

Can someone check whether the reference below supports the claim that "the Border Police of Georgia have continued to help enforce Georgian sovereignty over Abkhazia [...] since the end of the Russo-Georgian War"?

  • Gorst, Isabel (August 20, 2009). "Georgia threatens Abkhazia over sea-trade". Financial Times. Retrieved September 21, 2017.

It would also be helpful to make the claim more specific by describing what actions the border police have done in the Abkhazian area to enforce Georgian sovereignty claims.

Thanks! --2601:644:1:B7CB:44D2:D1A7:14DD:E76 (talk) 21:43, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The article does support the assertion. Relevant passages: "Abkhazia, the breakaway region of Georgia, threatened to use force to protect its seaborne trade on Thursday after Georgian coastguards arrested a vessel bound for Sukhumi, Abkhazia’s seaside capital, in the second case of its kind this week. . . . Georgian coastguards arrested a ship carrying scrap metal from Abkhazia to Turkey on Thursday, the fourth such seizure this year. The vessel, operating under a Cambodian flag and manned by a Syrian crew, was bound for Turkey, the Georgian border police said. Earlier this week Georgian coastguards diverted a Turkish fuel tanker approaching Abkhazia to Georgia’s port of Poti and arrested the captain." Note that, according to our article, the border police includes the coast guard. John M Baker (talk) 23:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I updated the article; the sentence now reads: "Since the end of the war, the Coast Guard has continued to the enforce the Georgian sea blockade of Abkhazia, arresting several commercial vessels traveling to and from Abkhazia on the Black Sea." 2601:644:1:B7CB:44D2:D1A7:14DD:E76 (talk) 00:00, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Constantine of Greece

{{Resolved}} For the article below in the Spanish Wikipedia, I would like to check the following article:

es:Grecia durante la Primera Guerra Mundial

I would be grateful if someone could send me a copy. Thank you.--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 07:33, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Rowanwindwhistler: Sent. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:41, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, thank you!!--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 03:58, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Belgian Colonial Archives

{{Resolved}} I seek a copy of the following journal article in order to improve Wikipedia's Archives Africaines (Belgium), Belgian National Archives 2 - Joseph Cuvelier repository, and State Archives (Belgium). Thank you.

Bérengère Piret (2015). "Reviving the Remains of Colonization – The Belgian Colonial Archives in Brussels". History in Africa. 42. doi:10.1017/hia.2015.1.

--M2545 (talk) 21:25, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@M2545: I have access to this paper. Wikimail me and I'll send it to you. —Bruce1eetalk 21:57, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@M2545: I've sent it. —Bruce1eetalk 05:50, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Bruce1ee: Thank you! -- M2545 (talk) 06:26, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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