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November 8

NEW NOMINATIONS

Hindu calendars

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OVERLAPCAT, these calendars are exclusively tied to the Hindu religion (split by country/region), categorizing the articles by Hindu festival and by calendar is mere duplication. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:06, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Religious calendars

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OVERLAPCAT, these calendars are exclusively tied to a religion, categorizing the articles by religious festival and by calendar is mere duplication. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:06, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:City Councilmen of Nauvoo, Illinois

Nominator's rationale: Category incorrectly named according to our naming conventions for city councillor categories (see parent category Category:Illinois city council members, where the two sibling subcategories for Chicago and Peoria are both named in the target format.)
As for the "aldermen" category, Nauvoo seems to be a bit of an edge case — unlike most cities, where "alderman" and "councillor" mean the same thing and the gender-neutral term replaced the gendered one when women started getting elected to city councils on a regular basis, Nauvoo seems to be a place that simultaneously used both terms for different people on the same city council even in the 1840s. (The article on its city council doesn't specify what the distinction between the two terms might be, however; it just says that some of the members were aldermen and others were councillors, the end.) But Nauvoo is not actually a place where serving on city council would pass WP:NPOL in its own right, but rather everybody in both categories combined either (a) has another notability claim for other reasons, mainly prominence in the Mormon Church, rather than being "notable" as city councillors per se, or (b) isn't really notable at all and should be deleted. So the fact that Nauvoo divvied its city council up under two different titles isn't really a strong reason why the two titles would need two separate categories — they should just be merged into one category at a general term that covers both titles, and fortunately the standard naming convention for city council member categories accomplishes exactly that. Bearcat (talk) 20:54, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT political advocacy groups in New England

I propose that we take Category:LGBT political advocacy groups in Maine with Category:LGBT political advocacy groups in Massachusetts and merge both into Category:LGBT political advocacy groups in New England.

This could help clean up the large amount of subcategories in Category:LGBT political advocacy groups in the United States. ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-☖ 14:04, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am in need of assistance for the what the proper formatting for this proposed merger. I have less experience with categories. ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-☖ 14:12, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I am of two minds as to whether Category:LGBT political advocacy groups in the United States really needs to be subdivided by state at all — the vast majority of its subcategories are one, two or three item WP:SMALLCATs, and the category as a whole is not large enough to require geographic subdivision at all — but as it stands, the criterion of division is by individual state, not by broad multistate region. As long as we're doing it that way, there's no valid reason for Maine and Massachusetts to be handled differently than any of the other 33 states-plus-DC that have their own state-specific categories. For another thing, both of these are also subcategories of "LGBT in [State]" parent categories, which would mean every item in a merged category would be half wrong in its categorization genealogy. Bearcat (talk) 17:16, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, agree with both minds of Bearcat. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:52, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Saint Barthélemy supercentenarians

Nominator's rationale: Empty category with no potential members that have an article. There was only one person who fit the category description, Eugénie Blanchard, and she is now only memorialized by a redirect to List of French supercentenarians. — JFG talk 10:30, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Space: Above and Beyond

Nominator's rationale: Category for a TV series with only the show itself as a member. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:19, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]


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