Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 3

January 3

Category:Encounters in Pakistan

• Propose deleting Category:Encounters in Pakistan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  

Nominator's rationale: Small category (only one article), unlikely (even in the case of a coup) to become large. The present article is already listed in appropriate categories. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:37, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please report to appropriate WikiProjects. I don't know enough about the area to determine. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:40, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete one event does not justify a category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:59, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Krypiakevych Institute of Ukrainian Studies research fellow

• Propose merging Category:Krypiakevych Institute of Ukrainian Studies research fellow to Category:Krypiakevych Institute of Ukrainian Studies people

Nominator's rationale: Only one article Rathfelder (talk) 20:26, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:39, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Alt merge to Category:Ukrainian academics, a similar case as the Potebna Institute nomination further down. The parent category is an otherwise empty category and can be deleted as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Krymskyi Institute of Oriental Studies research fellows

• Propose merging Category:Krymskyi Institute of Oriental Studies research fellows to Category:Krymskyi Institute of Oriental Studies people

Nominator's rationale: Only one article Rathfelder (talk) 20:26, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:39, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge per nom. The sibling category can also be upmerged. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:44, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Potebnia Institute of Linguistics research fellow

• Propose merging Category:Potebnia Institute of Linguistics research fellow to Category:Ukrainian academics

Nominator's rationale: Only one article Rathfelder (talk) 20:25, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:38, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom, implying that the parent Category:Potebnia Institute of Linguistics people can be deleted as empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:09, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:University of Kharkiv researchers

• Propose merging Category:University of Kharkiv researchers to Category:University of Kharkiv faculty‎

Nominator's rationale: Only one article, which doesnt mention University of Kharkiv. Rathfelder (talk) 20:22, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:38, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge or delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:20, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Institute of History of Ukraine research fellow

• Propose merging Category:Institute of History of Ukraine research fellow to Category:Ukrainian academics

Nominator's rationale: Only one article Rathfelder (talk) 20:21, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:38, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Alt merge to its immediate parent Category:Institute of History of Ukraine people. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:19, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bakul Institute of Superhard Materials research fellow

• Propose merging Category:Bakul Institute of Superhard Materials research fellow to Category:Ukrainian scientists

Nominator's rationale: Only one article, with just a passing mention of his research fellowship. Rathfelder (talk) 20:20, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:38, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom, implying that the parent Category:Bakul Institute of Superhard Materials people can be deleted as empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:20, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Palestinian researchers

• Propose merging Category:Palestinian researchers to Category:Palestinian academics

Nominator's rationale: Only one article, about a person who is not actually a Palestinian. Rathfelder (talk) 20:15, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:37, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:21, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I removed John_H._Sununu from the category as he is not actually a Palestinian. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:MTV Award winners

• Propose deleting Category:MTV Award winners (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  

Nominator's rationale: No such thing as an "MTV Award" - both MTV Award and MTV Music Award redirect to MTV Video Music Award which already has an extensive hierarchy at Category:MTV Video Music Awards Le Deluge (talk) 16:46, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ivy League academics

• Propose deleting Category:Ivy League academics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  

Nominator's rationale: This already exists for each of the individual schools. If for some reason this is deemed to be a necessary category, it should be only as a container category. Natureium (talk) 16:16, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Also the US term is faculty; eg Category:Harvard University faculty. Oculi (talk) 16:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete we do not categorize academics by the sports league their university belongs to.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:00, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:African-American football quarterbacks

• Propose deleting Category:African-American football quarterbacks (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  

Nominator's rationale: Not a defining characteristic per WP:CATDEF; non-notable intersection of race and football position Natureium (talk) 16:10, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per nom, per WP:EGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:22, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete the ERGS rules say avoid the lowest level intersection. This is especially true of ethnicity categories often applied more as race categories. Unless you can convince me that men like Ezekiel Ansah who never set foot in the US before college are being excluded from African-American categories I am unconvinced they are anything other than race categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:02, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:India political party color templates

• Propose deleting Category:India political party color templates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  

Nominator's rationale: Empty: redundant to Category:India political party colour templates, which should be used on all such pages in any case per ENGVAR. Vanamonde (talk) 07:04, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as is redundant. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 10:56, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jews and Judaism in Ankara

• Propose deleting Category:Jews and Judaism in Ankara

Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. There is no need to merge because the article is already in Category:Places of worship in Ankara and in Category:Synagogues in Turkey. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:00, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 10:55, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Tiny category, with little scope for expansion. Dimadick (talk) 12:45, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I am not fully convinced the one article is even notable. It clearly needs more and better sourcing if it is.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:04, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Churches by city (France)

• Propose merging Category:Churches in Aix-en-Provence to Category:Buildings and structures in Aix-en-Provence‎ and Category:Churches in Bouches-du-Rhône
• Propose merging Category:Churches in Bordeaux to Category:Buildings and structures in Bordeaux‎ and Category:Churches in Gironde
• Propose merging Category:Churches in Caen to Category:Buildings and structures in Caen‎ and Category:Churches in Calvados (department)
• Propose merging Category:Churches in Grenoble to Category:Buildings and structures in Grenoble‎ and Category:Churches in Isère
• Propose merging Category:Churches in Lille to Category:Buildings and structures in Lille‎ and Category:Churches in Nord (French department)‎

more categories nominated

Propose merging Category:Churches in Marseille to Category:Buildings and structures in Marseille‎ and Category:Churches in Bouches-du-Rhône Propose merging Category:Churches in Metz to Category:Buildings and structures in Metz‎ and Category:Churches in Moselle (department) Propose merging Category:Churches in Nancy, France to Category:Buildings and structures in Nancy, France‎ and Category:Churches in Meurthe-et-Moselle Propose merging Category:Churches in Nantes to Category:Buildings and structures in Nantes‎ and Category:Churches in Loire-Atlantique Propose merging Category:Churches in Nice to Category:Buildings and structures in Nice‎ and Category:Churches in Alpes-Maritimes Propose merging Category:Churches in Poitiers to Category:Buildings and structures in Poitiers‎ and Category:Religion in Poitiers and Category:Churches in Vienne Propose merging Category:Churches in Reims to Category:Buildings and structures in Reims‎ and Category:Churches in Marne Propose merging Category:Churches in Rouen to Category:Buildings and structures in Rouen‎ and Category:Churches in Seine-Maritime‎ Propose merging Category:Churches in Toulouse to Category:Buildings and structures in Toulouse‎ and Category:Churches in Haute-Garonne Propose merging Category:Churches in Troyes to Category:Buildings and structures in Troyes‎ and Category:Churches in Aube Propose merging Category:Churches in Versailles to Category:Buildings and structures in Versailles‎ and Category:Churches in Yvelines

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, all the above categories only contain 1 article and/or 1 (Roman Catholic) subcategory. See also this earlier nomination which is still open. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Stateless people from Thailand

• Propose merging Category:Stateless people from Thailand to Category:Stateless people

Nominator's rationale: No need to diffuse parent. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)nati[reply]

• Support per nom - but also merge to Category:Thai people which by the way should be renamed to Category:People from Thailand. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:41, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regarding the suggested renaming, that would conflict with all the members of Category:People by nationality. Upmerging the nominated category to Category:Thai people would be inaccurate, since, as explained on the category page, "Although these persons do not hold Thai nationality, the category is included as a subcategory of Category:Thai people for convenience." At any rate, we need a better way to categorise the category members under the Thailand tree. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:05, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Alternative suggestion: let us create Category:People from Thailand as a parent of Category:Thai people and merge Category:Stateless people from Thailand also to Category:People from Thailand. Of course the format of Category:People from Thailand differs from the usual format but that is needed to avoid ambiguity. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:26, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • On the other hand, Mong and Ekkaphon have since been granted citizenship, so they can now be accurately listed under Category:Thai people, and the distinction probably isn't as important now. I would still prefer to have an option for categorising articles (including such people) related to Thai nationality issues though. --Paul_012 (talk) 01:58, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • Ok so if merged you agree with the dual merge to Category:Thai people. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, but also open to other options. Being a stateless person from Thailand is a DEFINING characteristic at least for Mong Thongdee, whose notability mostly stems from the fact, so I would rather we avoided simply discarding the category. An alternative would be to recategorise the members to something that also covers Thai nationality law (There are many by-country cats under Category:Nationality law, but placing individual persons directly under Category:Thai nationality law doesn't seem optimal either.) --Paul_012 (talk) 09:05, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• I think stateless people is just a too small group of people for diffusing by country in any way. Or at least coverage of this group of people by Wikipedia is too limited to do that. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:31, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• I've thought a bit more about this, and the nationality law category is probably the best choice here; revoking my opposition. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:00, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]