January 3
Category:Encounters in Pakistan
- Nominator's rationale: Small category (only one article), unlikely (even in the case of a coup) to become large. The present article is already listed in appropriate categories. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:37, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Please report to appropriate WikiProjects. I don't know enough about the area to determine. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:40, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Krypiakevych Institute of Ukrainian Studies research fellow
- Nominator's rationale: Only one article Rathfelder (talk) 20:26, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Krymskyi Institute of Oriental Studies research fellows
- Nominator's rationale: Only one article Rathfelder (talk) 20:26, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Potebnia Institute of Linguistics research fellow
- Nominator's rationale: Only one article Rathfelder (talk) 20:25, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:University of Kharkiv researchers
- Nominator's rationale: Only one article, which doesnt mention University of Kharkiv. Rathfelder (talk) 20:22, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Institute of History of Ukraine research fellow
- Nominator's rationale: Only one article Rathfelder (talk) 20:21, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Bakul Institute of Superhard Materials research fellow
- Nominator's rationale: Only one article, with just a passing mention of his research fellowship. Rathfelder (talk) 20:20, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Palestinian researchers
- Nominator's rationale: Only one article, about a person who is not actually a Palestinian. Rathfelder (talk) 20:15, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:MTV Award winners
- Nominator's rationale: No such thing as an "MTV Award" - both MTV Award and MTV Music Award redirect to MTV Video Music Award which already has an extensive hierarchy at Category:MTV Video Music Awards Le Deluge (talk) 16:46, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Ivy League academics
- Nominator's rationale: This already exists for each of the individual schools. If for some reason this is deemed to be a necessary category, it should be only as a container category. Natureium (talk) 16:16, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Not a defining characteristic per WP:CATDEF; non-notable intersection of race and football position Natureium (talk) 16:10, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per nom, per WP:EGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:22, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete the ERGS rules say avoid the lowest level intersection. This is especially true of ethnicity categories often applied more as race categories. Unless you can convince me that men like Ezekiel Ansah who never set foot in the US before college are being excluded from African-American categories I am unconvinced they are anything other than race categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:02, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and make it a sub-category of Category:African-American players of American football. Aside from that category, we also have similar categories (e.g., Category:Jewish golfers, Category:Female bullfighters). I know, WP:OSE, but the quarterback position in the NFL has historically (and to this day) had very few AA players. AA QBs, and their rarity, are often discussed by reliable sources, and cited as an example of systemic racism. When an individual AA QB is written about in the media, it's often noted that they are one of the few AA QBs. I think in this case, AA QB is a notable sub-category of AA football players, per RSes. For example: [1] [2] [3] [4] Levivich (talk) 21:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:India political party color templates
- Nominator's rationale: Empty: redundant to Category:India political party colour templates, which should be used on all such pages in any case per ENGVAR. Vanamonde (talk) 07:04, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Jews and Judaism in Ankara
- Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. There is no need to merge because the article is already in Category:Places of worship in Ankara and in Category:Synagogues in Turkey. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:00, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Churches by city (France)
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, all the above categories only contain 1 article and/or 1 (Roman Catholic) subcategory. See also this earlier nomination which is still open. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose. WP:SMALLCAT does not apply to all categories which are currently small. It is for cats which "by their very definition, will never have more than a few members, unless such categories are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme".
- I checked the first five categories nominated. All one of those has a subcat for churches of RC denomination. Whatever your intention here, the effect of this merger is that non-Catholic churches in those cities will not be categorised as churches within the same area. That is not an NPOV outcome. (If your aim was to promote the hardline Catholic view that non-Catholic churches are not "real" churches, this would be a good way of doing it).
- This whole process of trying to rip out layers of container categories is fundamentally mistaken, because it pointlessly disrupts the consistency of the category system. That makes it harder to maintain and to navigate.
- By removing this layer from cities where we do already have a reasonable number of articles per city, a reader looking at the set of churches-by-city categories would get the false impression that there are few or no articles on churches in that city.
- The category system is a directional lattice based on consistency. Removing intermediate parts of that lattice because the article structure is underdeveloped undermines one of the pillars of that consistency principle, with no advantage to readers or editors. It is a pointless, disruptive make-work, both now and in the future when those categories are needed. See WP:DEMOLISH. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:07, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Stateless people from Thailand
- Nominator's rationale: No need to diffuse parent. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)nati[reply]
- Support per nom - but also merge to Category:Thai people which by the way should be renamed to Category:People from Thailand. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:41, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Regarding the suggested renaming, that would conflict with all the members of Category:People by nationality. Upmerging the nominated category to Category:Thai people would be inaccurate, since, as explained on the category page, "Although these persons do not hold Thai nationality, the category is included as a subcategory of Category:Thai people for convenience." At any rate, we need a better way to categorise the category members under the Thailand tree. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:05, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, but also open to other options. Being a stateless person from Thailand is a DEFINING characteristic at least for Mong Thongdee, whose notability mostly stems from the fact, so I would rather we avoided simply discarding the category. An alternative would be to recategorise the members to something that also covers Thai nationality law (There are many by-country cats under Category:Nationality law, but placing individual persons directly under Category:Thai nationality law doesn't seem optimal either.) --Paul_012 (talk) 09:05, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
