Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 16
January 16
Category:Tragedy anime and manga
- Nominator's rationale: This one has been back for a while, but like the newly created Category:Tragedy video games, there's no parent article to explain the term and a quick spot check of 3-4 articles found none of this mention the word tragedy at all. Without any context or sourcing, this should be deleted. Sources don't discuss video games, manga or anime as being in a "tragedy" genre. -- ferret (talk) 15:57, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support. I don't see the connection to "tragedy" either from my browsing through the category content. A really paranoid android (talk) 15:12, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I see some connections. Neon Genesis Evangelion, for example, is mostly centered on the mental illnesses of its characters and how they affect their own behavior and the fate of their world. Among the problems depicted are schizophrenia, the Oedipus complex, and the Electra complex. Remember that tragedy mainly deals with human suffering, and the characters being doomed due to their own character flaws and personal mistakes. However, we need third-party sources to determine genre, not our own research. Dimadick (talk) 13:30, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Completely arbitrary. —Xezbeth (talk) 11:12, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Category:Tragedy video games
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Newly created category that was populated with several games. I reverted these additions as its essentially unsourced for all of them. There no main article or term within the video game area of "Tragedy video game". It's not a genre. -- ferret (talk) 15:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. By the sourcing, this is not a "defining" genre/trait of video games. czar 10:49, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 01:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: @Ferret: your judgment was probably right, but it would have been more helpful for CFD participants – and less work for you – to leave the pages in the category pending the discussion. Meanwhile, they can presumably be traced via Special:Contributions/Chcu1297. – Fayenatic London 12:48, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per Czar's points. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 20:06, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Ror
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:13, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: I just can't see this caste category going anywhere. All it contains is the article about the caste itself, and that is very poor. Sitush (talk) 14:12, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support. I'd even go as far as supporting a proposal for deleting the article itself. A really paranoid android (talk) 15:14, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- support per nom. The article itself has sufficient cats at the moment --Lenticel (talk) 01:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 20:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Christianity in Pakistan by administrative unit
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge, there is no need for a container category layer like this in a country that has a small Christian minority who are mainly concentrated in one administrative unit (namely Punjab). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support a pedantic, slavish adherence to established tree structures should be avoided. Sensible interventions like this are to be preferred. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:08, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support not justified in this case, as the nominator reasons. - Sitush (talk) 14:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Category:Prince-Bishops of the Holy Roman Empire
- Propose renaming Category:Prince-Bishops of the Holy Roman Empire to Category:Prince-Bishops in the Holy Roman Empire
- Propose renaming Category:Prince-Bishops of Switzerland to Category:Prince-Bishops in Switzerland
- Nominator's rationale: rename for clarification, the current names may wrongly suggest that the entire Holy Roman Empire, and entire Switzerland, were a prince-bishopric. Perhaps the parent categories "Prince-bishoprics of" should also be nominated to "Prince-bishoprics in" but that is probably less needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Weak support for the first since the Prince-bishoprics were "of" the Empire, not just sited "in" the Empire. Would oppose changes to the parent categories "Prince-bishoprics of" since the same potential for confusion does not arise. Support the second proposal. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Category:Festivals in Former Yugoslavia
- Nominator's rationale: Everything here is already properly categorized as being in Serbia or Bosnia or Croatia or Kosovo or Montenegro as it is, so categorizing them for the country they used to be in alongside that is simply redundant and unnecessary. Bearcat (talk) 05:58, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep As someone who edits a lot of ex-Yugoslavian articles, I don't think it's redundant at all, and I think it would be helpful to have a category which distinguishes Yugoslavia from the modern-day countries. The problem with these categories is they include a lot of events which didn't actually take place in Yugoslavia. Perhaps a bot could de-categorise every event that began after the 1990s instead? SportingFlyer T·C 06:08, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Merge and rename respectively to Category:Festivals in Yugoslavia and Category:Electronic music festivals in Yugoslavia. We do not add "former" to former countries' categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- And agree with SportingFlyer that the category requires some purging. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 16 January 2019 (UTC)