April 5
Category:Lists of United States Supreme Court cases by volume
- Nominator's rationale: Entirely redundant to Lists of United States Supreme Court cases by volume, unneeded as a category. DannyS712 (talk) 23:42, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:I'm a Celebrity... (UK) contestants
- Convert Category:I'm a Celebrity... (UK) contestants to article List of I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! contestants (UK)
- Nominator's rationale: Listify - duplicate of List of I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! contestants (UK), lists are the usual way we handle participants rather than categories. Le Deluge (talk) 19:42, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:People of Finland Swedish descent
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:TRIVIALCAT, how relevant is it for e.g. British people that their Finnish ancestors spoke Swedish? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:31, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge or delete - IMO we should be categorizing people (just) by what they are notable for (actor, politician etc); not for the characteristics of their (grand)parents (which in many cases aren't mentioned in articles hence these categories are likely to be incomplate). DexDor (talk) 18:45, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose -- Finland was a Swedish province until conquered by Russia in 1809. The result is that there is a substantial Swedish-speaking minority. This is thus a significant quasi-ethnicity and as entitled to have descent categories as other ethnicities. I would compare this with descent categories for Armenians, Assyrians and other religious minorities of the Ottoman Empire. Perhaps it should be "Finland-Swedish" descent. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:57, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Paramus Catholic High School alumni
- Nominator's rationale: WP:CATDEF A central concept used in categorising articles is that of the defining characteristics of a subject of the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define[1] the subject as having—such as nationality or notable profession (in the case of people), type of ___location or region (in the case of places), etc. For example, here: "Caravaggio, an Italian artist of the Baroque movement ...", Italian, artist, and Baroque may all be considered to be defining characteristics of the subject Caravaggio.
- It seems really unlikely that what high school people went to was a defining characteristic which is commonly and consistently used to describe anyone. ResultingConstant (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2019 (UTC) ResultingConstant (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - per previous consensus on these categories (eg High school alumni (United_States) in 2008). We have Category:Alumni by high school in New Jersey - why is Paramus Catholic High School to be singled out? Oculi (talk) 17:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- (ec) Comment. This is one of many such categories (e.g. over 90 in Category:Alumni by high school in New Jersey alone) so I guess this is a test case. It would be better to listify rather than straight delete. Has anyone investigated whether this data (person X was at high school Y) has/can be stored in Wikidata in a way that en wp users could easily access it? DexDor (talk) 17:53, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - per previous consensus. In reference to queries above, one’s school can be quite defining and highly notable. For example, when individuals become highly successful despite having attended a very poor school then that is often considered to make their success all the more remarkable. On the other hand, there are often many politicians who campaign against private or selective education, despite having benefited from said systems themselves and even sending their own children to the same types of schools. Such controversies alone have began defining elements of the careers of some such individuals.Shakehandsman (talk) 19:06, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Those are good arguments for mentioning information about education in the text of a biographical article (assuming the info can be sourced), but is it really defining? For example, most bio articles won't mention the person's high school in the lede. An article may contain hundreds (possibly thousands) of facts, but we don't categorize for most of those facts. DexDor (talk) 20:34, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Absolutely, and that's just one aspect of how their schooling defines them, there's all the other more standard reasons too in terms of the impact of ___location of the school, its culture and that of the surrounding area. When you take everything combined. one's schooling its often far more defining than other things we categorise. We happily put people's university in there, even though they often spend less than half the time at such an institution than they spend at school.Shakehandsman (talk) 00:12, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Sinhalese script
- Nominator's rationale: Match the category name with the Sinhala language and Sinhala script articles. Danielklein (talk) 03:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Brightline stations
- Nominator's rationale: In line with renaming of article to reflect subject's rebranding per WP:C2D. Migle82 (talk) 01:07, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Brightline
- Nominator's rationale: In line with renaming of main article to reflect subject's rebranding per WP:C2D. Migle82 (talk) 00:57, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Pride of Britain Awards
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT
- The Pride of Britain Awards is an annual award ceremony started in 2000. I have no conceptual problem with the category but it consists only of the main article and three redirects for individual years that all point back to that same article so it doesn't aid navigation. If we don't have individual articles about each ceremony after 20 years, I don't think growth is likely but--if I'm wrong--no objection to recreating this category later. (Alternativley we could convert this to a hidden redirect category if any editors find that useful.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:14, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Latin Songwriters Hall of Fame inductees
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
- The Latin Songwriters Hall of Fame is a web site and annual awards show in Florida that started in 2013. The vast majority of articles in this category don't mention the award at all, although it should be added with the other honours. Instead, the Latin Grammy Award is often mentioned (including in the intro) and seems defining. The contents of the category are already listified here in a separate list article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:13, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
