Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive 2019 1

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Latest comment: 6 years ago by Joeyconnick in topic copying and pasting table cells broken


Crap

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Jason_Cheng_%E9%84%AD%E4%BB%A5%E5%BE%B7&action=edit&redlink=1

I graduated from Oxford and have spent an hour on the Wikipedia editor page and it's utterly crap. Can't even apply a biography template. Whoever designed this is a fuck wit


Jas cheng (talk) 07:41, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

On huge pages, the Chrome "aw snap" face appears within the visual editor, and I can't see anything below the gray screen it creates.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_13_5) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/71.0.3578.98 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_population_centers_by_longitude&veaction=editsource

Paintspot Infez (talk) 18:54, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello from the Ggarimasingh1 ! ©2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggarimasingh1 (talkcontribs) 13:31, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Biggest Ashoka Chakra of India

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/71.0.3578.98 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dharmachakra19/sandbox?action=edit

Dharmachakra19 (talk) 08:35, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Uploading family historical photo

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/63.0.3239.132 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_North_Devon_Yeomanry?action=edit

Difficult to support Wikipedia when it won't allow a personal, historical photo, that is of interest to anyone searching information in regards to the Boer War.

Niagara-on-the-lake (talk) 20:59, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Niagara-on-the-lake:, what is your point? What are you trying to do? Your edit link above does nor identify your problem.· · · Peter Southwood (talk): 15:36, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Infobox collapsing (remove all newlines, white-space) after edit

Hi, I've recently started to come across edits make with the VisualEditor where after all the newlines and white-space are removed making it both very difficult for source editor users to read/edit and more importantly to compare what has changed. If someone vandalises content it's very difficult to tell on large infoboxes, or sometimes even small ones. For both the purposes of anti-vandalism work and just for general editing with the source editor this is really bad.

  • Test 'vandalism' examples: this and this. (Note I got the same testing with FF and Chrome)
  • Example I just noticed made by another editor: here

Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:28, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

The {lang-zh} and {zh} templates no longer work

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/70.0.3538.102 Safari/537.36 OPR/57.0.3098.116

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betula_fruticosa?action=edit to mark Chinese text and transcriptions

Daviddwd (talk) 23:11, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Fortnight

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Progressive_enhancement&action=edit

2601:743:200:D497:95D9:483D:98F5:F4B7 (talk) 04:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Broken template data in visual editor

I make a lot of edits on Wikipedia, mainly for formatting, copy edits and short descriptions. I usually use the visual editor. In the past week, I've noticed the template data fail to load or parse correctly in the visual editor on some templates I use a lot, like {{lang-zh}} and even {{short description}}. Other templates unpredictably show proper parameter info and descriptions in the visual editor. I don't know why. --Daviddwd (talk) 03:33, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Bug report VisualEditor
Mito.money Please app{}
Intention: Formatting and short description edits
Steps to Reproduce: #First Edit a page in the visual editor
  1. Then attempt to use the templates {{lang-zh}} or {{short description}}

Please mention if it's reproduceable/if you attempted to reproduce or not. -->

Results: The template parameters aren't recognized by the visual editor; it appears template data doesn't load.
Expectations: for {{zh}}, |t= is recognized as "traditional characters" instead of "t"; |s= is as "simplified"; etc. In {{short description}}, the description parameter is shown as suggested.
Page where the issue occurs
Web browser Opera 57.0.3098.116
Operating system macOS 10.14.2 64-bit
Skin default
Notes:
Workaround or suggested solution

Daviddwd (talk) 03:33, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Correct the title

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/71.0.3578.98 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_the_Pacific_(Peru)?action=edit&oldid=879992771

Hello, i ask you for a change in my title. the name of our university is " Universidad del Pacífico" no University of the pacific(this is wrong), please help us.

JavierSV (talk) 17:59, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

<Challenge>

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/71.0.3578.98 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Frederic_Bastiat_Institute/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1&preload=Template%3AUser+sandbox%2Fpreload

How do i recover my old updated photos on wikipedia and channel it to this new page setup herein, since i'm denied to upload the previous uploaded photos on the blocked platform.

Frederic Bastiat Institute (talk) 22:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Invalid date in references

Using the option to add a reference and letting it fill in details from a URL it gives an invalid date of |date=1548849780 - there appears to be no validation of the information that it adds in to the reference. It should only allow dates that are valid and that comply with the MOS.

Just as an example try the following URL http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1074838/peruvian-olympic-committee-opens-lima-2019-accreditation-process-for-national-press

Though I think that any reference generated from that site has the same problem. Keith D (talk) 16:51, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Page Title?

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/71.0.3578.98 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NuFcULTRA/sandbox?action=edit

Hi, I am relatively new to wiki and was wondering if it is at all possible for me to change the name of my page that I have created.

Thanks

NuFcULTRA (talk) 00:46, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Not a VE issue. I assisted the user on their Talk page. Alsee (talk) 19:16, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Kathryn Kuhlman: Legacy

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Kuhlman?action=edit&oldid=881049459&wteswitched=1

This doesn't make sense: "The debate continues today with many believers upholding Kuhlman as an important forerunner with some Christian cessationist apologists." If you can fix it, it should read, "The debate continues today with many believers upholding Kuhlman as an important forerunner to the modern-day charismatic movement.

Ian7759 (talk) 09:09, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Ian7759:, this feedback page is only for Visual Editor-related feedback. Please discuss concerns about article content on the article's respective talkpage (Talk:Kathryn Kuhlman), ideally providing an independent reliable source for suggested changes and additions. The article seems to be a long-time controversial topic and needs published high-quality sources for all controversial aspects. GermanJoe (talk) 14:32, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Converting content cell to header cell in table

When many or one cell is selected to convert them into header cell, in preview you can see the change but after you publish only few cells are changed. Wiki KuthiVaiyans (talk) 16:59, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Cant click between characters?

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/71.0.3578.98 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_Monkey_(smoothie_bar_chain)?action=edit&oldid=882217892 There seems to be a bug where you cannot click in between characters. this means you cannot insert text in between other pieces of text, and any characters you try to input replace other characters

“Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music." - Sergei Rachmaninoff (talk) 00:05, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Automatic Cite decodes %26 as & in search query (books.google.com)

Bug report VisualEditor
Mito.money Please app{}
Intention: Insert citation
Steps to Reproduce: Cite -> automatic, url: https://books.google.pl/books?id=Z20aAQAAMAAJ&q=%22House+%26+garden%22+computer+Sutherland+1966&dq=%22House+%26+garden%22+computer+Sutherland+1966&hl=pl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif8f_nibzgAhVyp4sKHdVbAM0Q6AEILjAA

Tested in Pale Moon and SeaMonkey.

Results: Citation url: https://books.google.pl/books?id=Z20aAQAAMAAJ&q=%22House+&+garden%22+computer+Sutherland+1966&dq=%22House+&+garden%22+computer+Sutherland+1966&hl=pl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif8f_nibzgAhVyp4sKHdVbAM0Q6AEILjAA - unencoded "&" in q= and dq= queries
Expectations: Citation url: https://books.google.pl/books?id=Z20aAQAAMAAJ&q=%22House+%26+garden%22+computer+Sutherland+1966&dq=%22House+%26+garden%22+computer+Sutherland+1966&hl=pl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif8f_nibzgAhVyp4sKHdVbAM0Q6AEILjAA - unchanged %26 (encoded "&") in q= and dq= queries (like in source mode)
Page where the issue occurs Draft:ECHO_IV
Web browser Pale Moon, SeaMonkey: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
Operating system Windows 7
Skin default
Notes: This may happen for other urls with search queries.

Citation bot trims url queries with "&" to ...&q=%22House+&dq=... (diff)

Workaround or suggested solution Insert citation in source editor, which doesn't decode %26 characters

MarMi wiki (talk) 21:20, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Error in text appearing in dropdown list when using "Link' tool - how can it be corrected?

I'm a newish editor and have found an error I don't know how to fix. The problem is this: When I am using the Visual Editor to add a link on a page to Joan Withers, there is a dropdown list of possible pages that match what I'm typing, that appears as I type her name in. However under that 'Joan Withers' there is some grey text that says 'NZ businessman'. This is incorrect, as she is not a businessman! However I don't think that text is being sourced from the Joan Withers page, as there is no mention of the word 'businessman' on her page. How do I edit that text underneath the name in the dropdown list that appears as you try to add a link? Where is it sourced from?

Please don't just fix the Joan Withers problem itself, but tell me how to do it for other people in future, as I have found this type of error more than once.DrThneed (talk) 23:20, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Go to article about Joan Withers, go to Wikidata item page (under Tools section on the left list of wiki links) and edit the description. --MarMi wiki (talk) 18:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Perfect! Thank you so much! DrThneed (talk) 20:10, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

sandbox

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:65.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/65.0

frustrated trying to create an article. Not intuitive. Lost all my writing in my sandbox and not feeling up to researching it all again. Can it be recovered?

Dkallen78 (talk) 03:33, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

If you don't save your work, it's lost. Sorry. The 'publish' button, which saves your work to wikipedia's servers and makes it publicly available to everyone who knows where to look. (There is no way to save it to Wikipedia and have it not be visible to everyone.) DS (talk) 02:44, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Lost my backup

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/72.0.3626.121 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lophiostoma?action=edit&veswitched=1&oldid=888404546

Dear Wikipedia.

I was editing this page, when an error occurred in the reference list, using the popup reference journal editor.

Now it seems that I have lost 4 hours of work with the edit.

Is there any way for you to retrieve my edits from your database?

I have been working and the automatic backup has been working from about 09:00 today till present at 11:20.

Please let me know it there is any way to retrieve my data.

Best regards Mathias Andreasen

Mathias Andreasen (talk) 10:27, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

PUBLISHING

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_1) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/12.0.1 Safari/605.1.15

Hello there! I want to create an English page of Aram Mnatsakanov for our English-speaking colleagues. We have Russian page: https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Мнацаканов,_Арам_Михайлович&editintro=Шаблон%3AEditnotice%2FНыне_живущие

I don't understand how to publish this draft:(( URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mnatskanov_Aram_Mikhailovich?action=edit

I really need ur help

Ls.khimich (talk) 15:41, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Ref conversion incorrectly interpreted "Mylander" as two authors

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/70.0.3538.77 Safari/537.36

I was adding the reference https://www.thelantern.com/2000/11/maybe-not-as-big-as-your-head-labamba-8217s-burritos-big-on-taste/ and converted it to a template. It took the author's last name "Mylander" and broke it up into two last names "Myl" and "er". I suspect the regex is not working as intended and should check for whitespace around "and" before interpreting text as two authors.

Ost (talk) 16:46, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

photos

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_3) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/12.0.3 Safari/605.1.15

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lagessepascal&action=edit&redlink=1

I have been trying to upload the paintings associated with the artist Pascal Lagesse (me) and the software refuses the upload. What must I do please ?

Lagessepascal (talk) 15:20, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

X-Files season 3 Episode "731"

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_4) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/73.0.3683.86 Safari/537.36

Aloha, Wikipedia Edit Ninjas,

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_X-Files_episodes?action=edit&oldid=877743031&wteswitched=1

X-Files Season 3 Episode "731" incorrectly marked with double dagger; a very good episode, but NOT in the Alien Mythology Arc.

I attempted to edit it myself, and could not.

Your Trusted Friend, Wiki Red Pen

WikiRedPen (talk) 11:45, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Copying and pasting templates

Copying the {{extinct}} template output via visual editor and pasting results only in the output character rather than the template. Not sure if this is particularly intuitive especially when the citation templates copy in such a different way. Shyamal (talk) 02:56, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

@Shyamal: As an experiment, I create an instance of the {{extinct}} template yielding . Next I copy-and-paste it yielding . And it seems to work (both are templates, not the character). You can check the history of this talk page to confirm I did this in the Visual Editor. Generally when copy and paste of templates doesn't work in Visual Editor, it occurs when the copy is done in Read mode (not open in Visual Editor). If you are trying to copy and paste between two articles, open both of them in Visual Editor, even if you have no intention of changng the one you are copying from. I hope this helps. If it doesn't, can you explain more precisely the sequence of actions that caused the problem. Kerry (talk) 04:04, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I retried at Jacanidae and it does indeed seem to work - not sure what caused the failure I noticed (perhaps a way of selecting). Shyamal (talk) 04:07, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Reference "names" as colon + number

  Resolved

- I now see that this came out as number 5 in the 2019 Community Wish List survey. Let's hope we get some action! PamD 08:52, 17 April 2019 (UTC)


I've recently been doing some work trying to clean up some articles where Visual Editor was used to create very thoroughly referenced but sometimes confusingly arranged text. All the references have "names" like ":0", because that's what VE does when an editor re-uses a reference. In trying to improve the articles, sometimes wanting to re-use one of the existing references, it's really difficult to keep track of which reference is which. If anyone ever needs to merge articles, or legitimately copy text from one article to another, and both articles were created with Visual Editor, these colon+number ref names will cause huge problems as any imported references will need to be renamed, at each occurrence, before the text can be moved around to integrate it into its new home.

The Guidelines on reference names at Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Repeated_citations say "To help with page maintenance, it is recommended that the text of the name have a connection to the inline citation or footnote, for example "author year page" ". The Help page at Help:Footnotes#Footnotes:_using_a_source_more_than_once says "Names should have semantic value, so that they can be more easily distinguished from each other by human editors." VE goes against the recommendation in a policy and the instruction in a help page.

Please, please, can VE be modified so that by default it creates a sensible reference name? It has the author and title fields in the reference, it could so easily construct something from those, and would save a lot of trouble.

As an example, a recent article I've been working on is Kate Jagoe-Davies. Initially, since no-one had edited references since the article's creation, I could see that each numbered footnote was one higher than the reference "name" - so footnote "1" was ref ":0". But after moving things around, footnote "3" is now ref ":4". It makes life unnecessarily difficult for human editors.

This problem is only going to get worse as a growing number of articles with VE-named references are, in the natural way of things, worked on to improve or update them. VE needs to be amended. PamD 08:29, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

I don't use VE myself - tried it back in the day and found it unusable for much of the gnomish work I do. If there is some setting that the editor could have used to create sensible reference names, please tell me and I will pass it on to them. But VE should not even allow editors to create such hopelessly un-editor-friendly reference "names"! PamD 08:35, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Good to see I'm not the only one bothered by this. Here - a link to make finding and fixing them easier. DS (talk) 13:04, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
See this recent VPT discussion for more links and info. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:15, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Adding a template entirely from the keyboard?

I often want to add a template without taking my hands off the keyboard. I know that "{{" gets me into the template dialog, and then I can type the name of the template and hit return twice, But, then I'm left in a state where hitting additional returns edits text in the first template field text box. What I want to do is just simulate clicking the "Insert" button. I can hit tab some large number of times to cycle through the various U/I elements until the Insert button is highlighted, then hit return, but that's awkward. Is there any faster way to do this? I'm using Chrome on a Mac. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:53, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

@RoySmith: Tabulate backward with Shift (Shift+Tab x3, counting from the first field). --MarMi wiki (talk) 20:09, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Or even better, just use Ctrl+Enter - instant Insert. --MarMi wiki (talk) 20:12, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
There's help for keyboard shortcuts in Visual Editor: ? (question mark icon) -> Keyboard shortcuts. --MarMi wiki (talk) 20:20, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

This user interface

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/73.0.3683.103 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RyanFetcherton/sandbox?action=edit&oldid=0

This user interface doesn't reflect what a typical Wiki page looks like and the process to upload an image is not explain well nor is it easy.

RyanFetcherton (talk) 17:14, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

How to change the title of the article

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/73.0.3683.103 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hak-Nazar_Khan?action=edit The title should be "Hak-Nazar Khan". "Draft:" should be removed.

IskAnar (talk) 11:01, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Incorrect author order in automatically generated citation (via URL)

Bug report VisualEditor
Mito.money Please app{}
Intention: I recently added a citation the following article on climate sensitivity.
Steps to Reproduce: (Don't know whether this is visual editor thing, or whether this bug should be passed on to some third party.)
  1. First I clicked cite
  2. Then went to the automatic tab, inserted following url: https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo3017.
  3. Finally I insert the citation, and edit it afterwards to fix it.
Results: The same happens when I use chrome.
Expectations:
Page where the issue occurs all pages
Web browser Firefox
Operating system
Skin
Notes:
Workaround or suggested solution

Femke Nijsse (talk) 16:19, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

how can I change the title?

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/73.0.3683.103 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Wamoc?action=edit

Wamoc official (talk) 14:02, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

@Wamoc official: Read red Warning message in preview. --MarMi wiki (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

This section disappears when I publish the page.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/73.0.3683.103 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:EVanier16/Sandbox&section=14&veaction=editsource&action=edit

Rose Daly (talk) 10:25, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

@Rose Daly: Probably because the use of the named ref tag is incorrect - instead of <ref name="NSHS" /<ref>...</ref> it should be <ref name="NSHS">...</ref> --MarMi wiki (talk) 20:09, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Dritan Media

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.157 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dritan_Media&action=edit

109.69.5.180 (talk) 14:32, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

images won't move

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_13_6) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/73.0.3683.86 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buriolestes&action=edit&section=1 I can't move the images around on the page. I'm using Google Chrome on a MacBook.

Audrey.m.horn (talk) 14:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

SHSHAHHAS

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/73.0.3683.86 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Duano%E2%80%99_language&action=edit

60.48.32.81 (talk) 03:28, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

I cannot copy references in visual editor and put them elsewhere in the article

I used to be able to copy references in visual editor and paste them elsewhere in the same article or in another article in visual editor in a separate tab, and used to be able to drag it elsewhere in the article to move it to the proper ___location. In addition, there have been glitches with the reference boxes, and in one case I lost my work because it wouldn't let me save. These issues need to be remedied. While I have no issue editing by source, and have both tabs at the top for my personal settings, it takes more time. Thanks in advance.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 19:29, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

unable to move media

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_4) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suskityrannus&action=edit&section=4 I can't move images around with the mouse as I should be able to with the visual editor. I am using the latest version of Google Chrome.

Audrey.m.horn (talk) 16:13, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Would like the option to clear some entries from suggested edit message / history

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/76.0.3800.0 Safari/537.36 Edg/76.0.172.0

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-locked_loop_range?action=edit

Daviddwd (talk) 02:25, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

A user suggested this to me and I thought I would pass it on. It would be super handy to be able to configure drop down menus in the Visual Editor to fill template paramters with a pre-configured set of options. NemesisAT (talk) 23:41, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Just realised I'm on English Wikipedia rather than the MediaWiki site. This suggestion is based on experiences on an independant wiki, not on Wikipedia.NemesisAT (talk) 23:42, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Pre block not rendering

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/73.0.3683.86 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Torbat-e_Heydarieh&action=edit&section=1

The gallery text for the final image in the gallery on this page renders in read mode as preformatted but renders as normal text in the visual editor

101.187.122.96 (talk) 04:05, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Uploading another example photo

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TI-34&action=edit&section=1

I have an older TI-34 calculator than the one published, but when I take a picture, crop it, and upload it, I keep getting an error that they can't determine whether or not it is suitable or if I have rights to the photo.

Richerichnc (talk) 12:52, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Richerichnc,
You're getting this error because you're a new user, and the volunteers at Commons have decided to block most uploads from new users. (In their defense, they do get an enormous volume of people copying photos off other websites and then claiming that it's "my own work".) You can try going to c:Special:UploadWizard and see if you have better luck that way. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:32, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Feedback centralization

Most of the feedback appearing on this page is going to be 'centralized' to MediaWiki.org soon. This will specifically affect any feedback that begins with "User agent:". The page is still open to anyone who wants to post manually – although, as it says at the top, the devs may not hear about feedback on this page very quickly.

I ask, therefore, that the regulars watching this page make a habit of alerting a more closely watch page if someone reports any serious-sounding problem. You can do this by leaving a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or the local Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) (or pinging me, if all else fails) about any problem that seems urgent to you. They're still interested, but time constraints prevent the team from watching all the separate pages. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:42, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Incorrect phrasing!

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/11.0 Safari/605.1.15 Epiphany/605.1.15

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GNOME_Web&action=edit

It says “Take care to violate third-party copyright” when you click the ⓘ button in the “Screenshot of web browser” textbox in the “web browser” infobox!

Golemwire (talk) 21:38, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for this note, Golemwire. It looks like it was an accidental typo in one of User:Czarkoff's edits. Czarkoff hasn't edited much recently, but User:John of Reading has done some cleanup work on those docs before; could one of you fix it, and maybe check that it doesn't appear in the TemplateData for any other templates? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:50, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
@Golemwire and Whatamidoing (WMF): I've fixed that TemplateData, and there are no occurrences of "Take care to violate" on any other page at the English-language Wikipedia. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:56, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Not showing wikidate

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/73.0.3683.86 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Ospina?action=edit

Why the wikidata Q3568859 is not showing in the english page?

Vivita123 (talk) 15:30, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

It is now. It sometimes takes a little while to show up. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:59, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

How to reuse links?

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/73.0.3683.86 Safari/537.36

I want to reuse a link in differnet part of this template, but i can not click the reuse button. Please how can i re use links?

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangled:_The_Series?action=edit&section=9#mw-save-preview-cite_note-19

Xiaobao (talk) 14:48, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you can't re-use refs that are inside templates, because those are 'hidden' to the main toolbar. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Why no VE on talk pages?

Is the lack of VE on talk pages a technical limitation? -- RoySmith (talk) 19:34, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

RoySmith, there are technical limitations (VisualEditor doesn't support Wikipedia:Definition lists, which is what these colons that we abuse for fake indenting are about), but there are also design problems. It's a truism that software can be designed to do one thing well, or multiple things poorly. So either you make it work well for editing articles, or you make it work poorly for multiple uses.
Something that came up in the Wikipedia:Talk pages consultation 2019, which I'd never thought about before, is that when you want people to do different things, then it really shouldn't look the same. So while there may be a role for posting to a talk page without having to deal with wikitext directly ("a visual editor"), there should also be some signal that this isn't where you should write the article (and perhaps more importantly, that the mainspace isn't where you should chat about the article). If you've got ideas about how to make them different (but not too different, because we don't all want to learn completely different systems for each namespace), then please share those thoughts at Wikipedia:Talk pages consultation 2019/Phase 2. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:17, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

cant seem to find the more/move button

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/75.0.3770.100 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NabuTheMuseum/sandbox?action=edit

hello! for some reason i cant find the move button to publish the page of the museum

NabuTheMuseum (talk) 08:29, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Error when adding citation in Choice Hotels

Bug report VisualEditor
Mito.money Please app{}
Intention: Adding citation using VE and received said error.
Steps to Reproduce: Try editing the Choice Hotels page and adding this citation
Results: I get the said error message, We couldn't make a citation for you. You can create one manually using the "Manual" tab above.
Expectations: Wanted to add citation to verify as a part of WP:NOTA. If I can't verify source, then WP:CBNG marks the edit as vandalism.
Page where the issue occurs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice Hotels
Web browser Chrome 75
Operating system Windows 10
Skin Vector
Notes: [1]
Workaround or suggested solution

Tornadosurvivor2011 20:30, 25 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tornadosurvivor2011 (talkcontribs)

I've added this to the phabricator bug report system. --Salix alba (talk): 21:20, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome for new editors using VE

Hi, I would like to create a VE version of Template:Welcome training, draft created at User:WereSpielChequers/Welcome Training (VE) any assistance gratefully received. ϢereSpielChequers 08:10, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

User:Evolution and evolvability did some good work on help pages for newcomers a while ago. If you're still working on this, you might ask for his advice. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:07, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks WhatAmIdoing, yes Evolution and evolvability any help you can give would be appreciated. I suspect I need to make both welcomes "switchable" between V/E and classic editor. I was helping at a training session a couple of weeks ago, and though the trainer was promoting V/E, there was at least one lady present who preferred the classic editor as similar to html. ϢereSpielChequers 18:50, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
@WereSpielChequers: Hi, apologies for the delay (I marked this as read but forgot tot actually reply!). I'm happy to help out. I'll take a look at your draft this weekend and do a bit of editing. I was genuinely shocked looking at the list of welcome templates that nothing already exists! T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 06:50, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks T. Shaffee, to be fair, most welcomes are basically walls of text re policy and as far as they work they are as good for V/E editors as classic editors. But the training template is designed to give newbies some uncontentious things to do, steer them into areas where they can make their first edits with minimal risk of contention. ϢereSpielChequers 08:36, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

On july 4th 2019; Ruth B. Wikipedia age states she is 23, when she was born July 2nd 1995

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_13_3) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/75.0.3770.100 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ruth_B.&action=edit&section=1&editintro=Template%3ABLP_editintro

2A02:C7F:BE67:F400:AC23:94BB:A80:14AF (talk) 17:16, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing this - I have purged the page, forcing the software to recalculate the age. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:34, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Removed Image (Mistake)

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/75.0.3770.100 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sajjan_Raj_Vaidya&action=edit&editintro=Template%3ABLP_editintro I accidentally removed his image. Can you guys upload it again?

Sasmitbataju (talk) 20:06, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

  Fixed -- John of Reading (talk) 20:14, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

visualEditor/Feedback

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/64.0.3282.140 Safari/537.36 Edge/17.17134

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_(computing)&action=edit

Seongkooi (talk) 18:47, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Editing News #1—July 2019

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon   to start editing.

Edit Cards

 

This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases

The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team has recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:

  1. Section editing
    • The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
    • The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
  2. Loading overlay
    • The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects

This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.

  • Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲Try Edit Cards.
  • Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
  • Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
  • Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use.  The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

  • Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to them about how editing can be improved.
  • Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more

The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) and Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Just a reminder that the "Edit Cards" change will probably happen on Tuesday. Feel free to ping me if you have comments/questions/problems. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:27, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

copying and pasting table cells broken

Bug report VisualEditor
Mito.money Please app{}
Intention: trying to copy and paste the contents of cells into another table or section of the same table
Steps to Reproduce: as follows
  1. First open a table in the Visual Editor
  2. Then copy some cells
  3. Finally attempt to paste those cells elsewhere in the same table or a different table
Results: the copied cells are pasted within your selected cell as a new table
Expectations: previously, and correctly, the contents of the copied cells overwrote the selected cell (and whatever other cells were needed to fit the copied content (this changed probably in May or June 2019)
Page where the issue occurs diffs
Web browser Chrome 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit)
Operating system macOS Mojave 10.14.5
Skin Vector
Notes:
Workaround or suggested solution

Joeyconnick (talk) 23:06, 18 July 2019 (UTC)