Module talk:Sidebar

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Latest comment: 8 hours ago by Waddie96 in topic ARIA

Should there be a way to automatically open up the relevant section of the sidebar?

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After Template:Feminism sidebar got reorganized, a bunch of transclusions no longer automatically expand the correct section. For example, the article Feminist theory in composition studies automatically expands the "Concepts" section even though the article is now listed under the "Theory" section. Something I realized is that expanding the section that contains a link to the current article might be something that could be done automatically, so that editors no longer have to manually specify the section to auto-expand on every article where a sidebar is included. PBZE (talk) 19:39, 27 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

How get "alt" text for the image

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In article Atlanta Compromise, it is using an InfoBox Template:Nadir of American race relations .. that infobox has an image in it. How can I add "alt" text for the image, to assist visually impaired users of the encyclopedia? I couldn't find instructions for alt text in this module page. Noleander (talk) 01:39, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Noleander: Template:Nadir of American race relations has
{{Sidebar with collapsible lists
...
| image = [[File:Le Petit Journal 7 Oct 1906 (cropped).jpg|232px|class=notpageimage]]
...
}}
and you would add the alt text inside that image specification using |alt=, see WP:EIS#Alt text and caption. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:57, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Great, thanks, that worked. Noleander (talk) 13:13, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
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I noticed that when a wrapper of this template is called on the page the title parameter links to, the title renders as the link color despite not actually being a link. This doesn't align with the default behavior when a page links to itself (e.g.: Module talk:Sidebar) or the behavior when a non-title link in a sidebar links to the page it's placed on. It's also possible that this violates the Links should be clearly identifiable as links for readers clause of MOS:COLOR (it doesn't conform to the inverse, i.e. that non-links shouldn't appear as links).

My Lua knowledge is limited at best so I have no idea what/who (and, by extension, why) caused this. Any thoughts?

— Daℤyzzos (✉️ • 📤) 20:18, 29 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord: On which page do you see this happening? Examples always help. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:03, 29 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
First noticed it on Mathematics. – Daℤyzzos (✉️ • 📤) 23:22, 29 July 2025 (UTC) P.S. Just realized this—only happens on dark mode (probably should've checked that earlier, but oh well.) Also: using Chrome but also shows up in Safari on my phone (again only in dark mode). – Daℤyzzos (✉️ • 📤) 23:28, 29 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
This also occurs using Firefox, again dark mode only. The HTML that is served has
<table class="sidebar nomobile nowraplinks hlist">
  <tbody>
    <tr>
      <td class="sidebar-pretitle">Part of a series on</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <th class="sidebar-title-with-pretitle">
        <a class="mw-selflink selflink">Mathematics</a>
      </th>
    </tr>
    ...
  </tbody>
</table>
In both dark and light mode, this comes with the following CSS:
@media screen {
  a.mw-selflink {
    color: inherit;
    font-weight: bold;
    text-decoration: inherit;
  }
}
which is what makes the word "Mathematics" appear black and boldface. But in dark mode only, the following CSS (found in Module:Sidebar/styles.css) is used in addition:
@media screen {
  html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .sidebar:not(.notheme) .sidebar-title-with-pretitle a {
    color: var(--color-progressive) !important;
  }
}
The last three simple selectors (.sidebar:not(.notheme) .sidebar-title-with-pretitle a) are what's causing the color to be overridden. The color value (var(--color-progressive)) is read from a variable that is set elsewhere. Why it's written that way, I don't know. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:10, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
I did some WikiBlame-ing and discovered that the last bit of CSS in your comment (the @media screen one) was added in this edit to the style page by @Jdlrobson (pinging to find the reasons for the addition as the link in the edit summary is broken and a search for "Fall of Constantinople dark mode error" on talk pages turned up blank). – Daℤyzzos (✉️ • 📤) 13:20, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Removing sidebar images as page image

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(continuation of Module talk:Sidebar/Archive 6#Removing sidebar images as page image)

@Izno: I've added notpageimage to the sandbox and its configuration. The RedBurn (ϕ) 06:36, 30 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

ARIA

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Hi, per WIA-ARIA, can the parent <table> HTML element with classes sidebar sidebar-collapse nomobile nowraplinks please get an ARIA role. Like the Mbox templates (see Module:Message box, I was thinking role="none" is most appropriate. Although, in this case since most sidebars are navigation boxes it may be helpful to able to pass a boolean parameter to change the ARIA role given to role="navigation".

@Izno What do you think? Sorry, I'm browsing around with my screenreader and noticed the sidebar also uses HTML tables still... Are you also on-board with role="none" and a boolean argument to switch this to role="navigation"?

(P.S. future me or someone else kind enough I can proof it—will have to also explain clearly and succinctly in sidebar and sidebar with collapsible lists template docs how to use lists (that expose <ul>, <li>, etc.) and be ARIA-friendly i.e. grouping them so they're read out usefully, labelling (!!) so important as otherwise a long babelling electronic voice of hyperlinks is all the visually impaired has for reference etc. if this is even possible to achieve on WP...) waddie96 ★ (talk) 02:47, 1 September 2025 (UTC)Reply