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Unexpected effects

Latest comment: 6 months ago19 comments4 people in discussion

I found this, not sure if it has to do with TemplateStyles etc. Article Great Western Railway uses {{Infobox GWR}}, {{Track gauge}} and {{Convert}}.

It has template output like:

{{Track gauge|uksg}} (in lede)

expct: 4 ft 81⁄2 in (1,435 mm)

shows: 4 ft 8+½ in (1,435 mm)

{{Convert|11+1/2|mi|km|0|adj=on}} section (in body)

expct: 111⁄2-mile (19 km) section

shows: 11+½-mile (19 km) section

That is: the "+" and "½" (fraction character) are unexpected. This also happens within {{Infobox GWR}}.

Research & reproduce: I found that when {{Infobox GWR}} is removed (absent), the output is regular. To reproduce: in Special:ExpandTemplates put the lede (and the {{Convert}} code from body), and check with/without {{Infobox GWR}}.

This is as far as I could get. Has to do with TS? @Izno: -DePiep (talk) 09:52, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

This is due to the specific template first using this module when the module is wrapping the gauge in a link and is fundamentally this issue. Let me see if I can fix it here. Izno (talk) 15:10, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

The issue is in formatImp. I think I can do a limited fix though I hate that I must do it the way in question. Let me tweak the sandbox. Izno (talk) 15:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

First fix works. I will see if I like one of the other solutions I was thinking about. Izno (talk) 15:32, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I think I do prefer this version. Please feel free to sync as desired. Izno (talk) 15:49, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Test #1. Basic input options look fine, using Module:Track gauge/sandbox: see Template:Track_gauge/testcases#All

. -DePiep (talk) 21:23, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Test #2: Article Great Western Railway with {{Track gauge/sandbox}}, also in {{Infobox GWR/sandbox}}. OK in preview.

. -DePiep (talk) 21:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

OK. Edit request: Please someone put all code Module:Track gauge/sandbox into Module:Track gauge (diff). -DePiep (talk) 21:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Recurring bug

@DePiep: I'm still seeing the + (but not the fraction character) at Track gauge#Early track gauges ("the Dundee and Newtyle Railway (1831) in the north-east of Scotland adopted 4 ft 6+1⁄2 in (1,384 mm)"). The correct output appears in preview. Hairy Dude (talk) 12:48, 24 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Hairy Dude:. OK here. Did you try to Purge the article (=click on clock topright on the page)? (Could be you have an old version in the cache). Anyway, I have made a minor edit, so the article should reload anyway. OK now? -DePiep (talk) 12:55, 24 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

That was the first thing I tried after I saw the preview was correct. And I also made a minor edit to check. Are you not seeing it? Maybe it's some quirk of the mobile interface. Hairy Dude (talk) 13:04, 24 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

ah, mobile. Yes wrong on my mobile device too. Don't know from here. -DePiep (talk) 18:47, 24 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Izno, could you take a look?

In mobile view, Track gauge#Early track gauges using {{Track gauge|4ft6.5in}} shows the "+"-sign in a fraction. -DePiep (talk) 11:02, 11 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

This change should work around it. Izno (talk) 13:22, 11 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Coming back two years later, I'm still seeing these pluses at Track gauge. Hairy Dude (talk) 13:00, 21 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

And another year and a half: it's still happening, on the desktop version of Beer Heights Light Railway. @Izno's work-around fixes it. Bazza 7 (talk) 11:38, 10 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Bazza 7 it should not be necessary there. Infoboxes are not impacted by this issue. And actually, sidebars should not be impacted by this issue these days either, as they have special code that goes and finds the relevant tags. Izno (talk) 21:45, 10 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

The actual issue is that you (general) put {{RailGauge}} inside a link, which is due to a different interaction with the parsing software, see phab:T200704. If you want to link a rail gauge, please use the appropriate option |lk=on. Izno (talk) 21:48, 10 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Izno: Thanks for the explanation. I didn't code that part of the article but came across it in passing. The error appeared in the main article text as well as the info box, which is what made me think the fault still existed. Thanks for correcting the article. Regards, Bazza 7 (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

non breaking space instead of comma

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

can we please use 1435 mm ({{val|1435}}) instead of 1,435 mm, as suggested in Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers? ThurnerRupert (talk) 00:03, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

'comma' parameter

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

This template admits a parameter comma which is described almost nowhere in the description. By "almost nowhere", I mean that the only place where I found it mentioned is at the bottom of the TemplateData rollout, as "Parameter: comma; Description: no description; Type: Unknown; Status: optional". That's rather uninformative, don't you think ? After having seen that parameter in use in several places in the article Dual gauge, I wanted to know what it did, and after reading the above, I still didn't know. Then I guessed that comma=no suppressed the thousands comma in the gauge widths, but after trying to add an example as part of this comment, the preview still separated the thousands with a comma. So please, someone, complete the description of the comma parameter at the bottom of the TemplateData rollout, and also add some examples of its use here and there in the rest of the description. — Tonymec (talk) 15:37, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply