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:::::Regarding, {{tq|It would just need one good source to say that it is disputed for the situation to change.}} If the measure is the {{tq|'''viewpoint's prevalence in reliable sources'''}}, then sources which directly contradict the viewpoint or which describe the viewpoint as disputed are not [[:Necessity and sufficiency|''necessary'']]; it would be ''sufficient'' to show that the viewpoint appears in a minority of sources only. [[User:Rotary Engine|Rotary Engine]] <sup>[[User talk:Rotary Engine|talk]]</sup> 02:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::But the number of sources isn't that important. What we have now is very few secondary sources about him, I think only one deals with the question of if he is a samurai or not, the others simply use the term retainer or samurai, which can be synonyms. There is no secondary source saying what the academic consensus is, probably because there is no academic debate about the subject. If evidence of a debate is found, then that would have to be reconsidered. [[User:Tinynanorobots|Tinynanorobots]] ([[User talk:Tinynanorobots|talk]]) 05:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
 
== The lead ==
 
I think there are a couple problems with the lead. First, it doesn’t mention that Yasuke was a weapon bearer, which is probably more important than that he was a samurai. Second, in one line it says: "As a samurai, he was granted a servant, a house and stipend". This implies that all samurai were given a house, a servant and a stipend. That is not something that the sources support, even if it is an indication of a samurai. Lastly, it mentions that he served 15 months as a samurai, but that would imply that we know when he became a samurai. I couldn’t find that in the sources. I am not sure exactly how one became a samurai at this time period. [[User:Tinynanorobots|Tinynanorobots]] ([[User talk:Tinynanorobots|talk]]) 06:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)