Talk:Mode (music)

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Mystic nonclassical mode (it has 3 submodes)

Please include it, make all proper files (if you have a different Mystic mode, name that one Sigil mode, otherwise keep it Mystic)

• do, re#, mi, sol, sol#, ti
• do, do#, mi, fa, sol#, la
• do#, re, fa, fa# la, la#

mood: mysterious

Evil Shaolin nonclassical mode (it has 2 submodes)

Please include it, make all proper files

• do, re, re#, fa, fa#, sol#, la, ti
• do#, re, mi, fa, sol, sol#, la#, ti

mood: horrorish (not pure horror; to horrorize it add chromatic ornaments and off-scale the semitonal intervals: 0-13, 0-11, 0-1, 0-6, 0-3, 0-4 (zero means starting note, and number means semitonal steps backwards or forwards)

Helpful examples

Latest comment: 7 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

This is the best WP article I've found on modes. I appreciate the scales and especially the example phrases from chants. One other set of links would be worthwhile: links to real performances of the chants referenced in the table, if relevance and copyright issues can be solved. Wcmead3 (talk) 13:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Merge 'Modern modes' tables

The first two tables in the "Modern modes" section are nicely structured, especially the staggered columns in the second one. The two tables are mostly redundant, however, and merging them into a single table would be more concise. (And a professional bass guitar and music theory teacher agrees with me.)

Other Types section reversion

Latest comment: 7 hours ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I am reverting the edit by anonymous user using IP address 118.170.13.96 on 06:57, 20 May 2024 and subsequent edits to the Other Types section.

While the prior version of the section was not perfect, it was at least relatively coherent. The edit I am reverting, while superficially appearing to be an expansion, turned it into an erroneuous and incoherent mess. Too much space is devoted to listing which scales are each other's "duals" without ever actually explaining what that even means or why it's relevant (arguably it isn't particularly, except to perhaps an article or section on Riemannian dualism). It included no sources, deleted correct information while adding incorrect information, such as an entirely spurious explanation for the term "harmonic", some of which even the editor themself seems unsure of as they included question marks next to some of the scale names. They even refer to the major scale as the "ascending melodic major" and "natural major", which is a bizarre mix of wrong and redundant.

Subsequent edits in the past 15 months have not fixed any of these issues, save to slight improvements to the formatting. As I see it, no significant improvement can be made upon this section without either rewriting the whole thing from scratch, or reverting to a functional previous version, as I intend to do presently. Charlie7301 (talk) 17:50, 1 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Good removal. The policy WP:INDISCRIMINATE was being violated, along with WP:No original research. Binksternet (talk) 19:36, 1 September 2025 (UTC)Reply