Template talk:Infobox company

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Latest comment: 1 day ago by JohnLim99 in topic Integration of Wikidata Statements

Details of "incorporation"

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@Rich Farmbrough: |incorporated= is an interesting addition, but I believe its placement should not be as high up. Perhaps just below the ___location would be a better fit? Additiobally, we should probably amend the documentation to limit when this should be used. In 95% of cases, the place of incorporation is likely to just be the country the company is based in, and then it is not really important to include. The caption should probably read "Place of incorporation" or perhaps "Jurisdiction" to avoid it being mistaken for the incorporation date. IceWelder [] 06:24, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

I think it belongs with founders, as it is part of how the company was set up.
I'm interested in who would mistake it for incorporation date and how. There is a comment on the documentation, and it is not in the short form. Possibly we should have incorporation date and jurisdiction. We live in a complex world, companies trading in one jurisdiction may or may not have a subsidiary in that jurisdiction. In Amercia jurisdiction is particularly important, and is a political hit topic right now.
I'm reasonably relaxed with renaming it to "Jurisdiction" if you wish, be bold, however it's a bit ambiguous since jurisdiction is hierarchical, and companies are also liable under all the jurisdictions where they trade, and sometimes others.
I have no idea how companies "reincorporate" in another jurisdiction, but they do, this may have some relevance, it's a good reasons to leave it as a free text field.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:18, 3 May 2025 (UTC).Reply

Transparent Logo Problem Persists

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As in this wiki Ancestry.com, when viewed in dark mode, the logo is shown against a white background which looks odd and defies the purpose of having a Transparent background logo.

However other templates doesn't contain this problem, like this FamilySearch. I am not looking for the skin-invert fix, i want the background to be shown transparent.

Can someone with the right knowledge fix this template‽ JDas123 (talk) 09:44, 7 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

How a logo is shown is, as far as I am aware, an issue with the logo itself (and/or the InfoboxImage module) not specifically with this template. Primefac (talk) 14:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I found the solution to it and added a new topic in this talk page detailing the solution. I just want a moderator to implement the change. And btw it isn't the issue of the logo, it' s the issue with the CSS styling of the template. I have researched for quiet a while now on this. Raino5501 (talk) 06:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Found a solution for the white background in logos but I want a moderator to do the changes

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In Template:Infobox company/styles.css the wikicode that defines the background colour of logo is set to:

background-color: #f8f9fa;

it must be replaced with:

background-color: transparent;

Why should it be done? Because the logo with the white background looks kinda really bad in dark mode of wikipedia. I would like a moderator to do the change since the page is protected. I am sure it would surely improve the visuals of the users who prefer dark mode over light mode. Also the skin-invert class kind of look bad with a opaque background. I hope the moderators would consider this change since it's a minor but impactful changes and would not likely cause any problem.

Raino5501 (talk) 06:05, 22 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Here's the link to the page: Template:Infobox company/styles.css Raino5501 (talk) 06:13, 22 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I think removing the background-color parameter all together is much better than "background-color: transparent;" or in case "background-color: transparent;" don't seem to work Raino5501 (talk) 06:38, 22 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
There are no moderators. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:59, 22 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Alas, that's the harsh reality I guess. Can I tag someone perhaps JGrass123 (talk) 02:37, 23 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
As you can see with the comment, this is a deliberate choice to avoid 1) the need to set skin-invert on arbitrary logos and 2) to prevent even needing such a parameter. And the in the meantime 3) you would have a lot of logos that would need such support that you wouldn't be able to see in dark mode. IznoPublic (talk) 03:03, 23 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I feel that logos without background is much better and there's relatively few logos that may require skin-invert. And I see this background issue only with this company template, no other infobox has this and they don't look bad in dark mode (Infobox Organisation for example). For me transparent background looks much better and sleek. Also skin invert with a background looks more bad, see Apple Inc. Raino5501 (talk) 04:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
No other infobox has this because they haven't been gotten to, not because they shouldn't. Logos specifically are uploaded expecting a light background. Sorry, but your request simply isn't going to be implemented. Izno (talk) 04:28, 23 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hello, I have been summoned for my opinion. I agree with Izno that is is porobably not something we will tackle at the moment. I do, however, also agree that something should be done to combat infoboxes having a giant white blob in dark mode. Something akin to a |logo_invert= parameter with values for inversion (no background), no inversion (white background), and no inversion (no background, i.e. for fully colored logos). This is something the Infobox module team would have to deal with, however. IceWelder [] 17:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Some logos are invertable; others are not. A company may have registered their logo as a trademark, specifying particular colours (perhaps as Pantone numbers). When I worked for Alcan in the 1980s, the logo had already been registered, and the specification not only included the two colours, but also such trivial things as the number of stripes in the right-hand half. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:00, 23 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I agree with IceWelder 2409:40E0:50:1331:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 13:38, 26 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I also agree with Raino 2409:40E0:50:1331:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 13:39, 26 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hey User:Izno I am back :) So, if setting the background of the logos to transparent is a bad idea, then how about creating a parameter like "bg_transparent" to set the background of only the required logos to transparent just like in Template:Chembox. That white background under the logos in dark mode really bug me till date. JGrass123 (talk) 06:44, 2 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I prefer not to support parameters for this. It should just work for users without needing to fuss with new parameters. Izno (talk) 18:36, 3 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Income loss

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How to present a net income loss with this template? The word "loss" does not even appear in the documentation; the lack of this functionality is likely to discourage the use of and thus bias this template to present financial information. OceanLoop (talk) 03:40, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

The status quo is to give the net_profit field a negative value, similar to how it is written in many financial reports. IceWelder [] 08:13, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I don't know what giving the net_profit field a negative value means, as it could include:
  • -US$97.7 million (2021)
  • US$ -97.7 million (2021)
  • (US$97.7 million) (2021))
  • US$ (97.7 million) (2021)
The owner of this template would do a great service by documenting the correct format. OceanLoop (talk) 14:45, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Note that no template ever has an "owner", and you're free to edit the sandbox and request changes at any time. As for your question, the second variant you list seems to be the most common. IceWelder [] 15:10, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Integration of Wikidata Statements

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Might want to consider to include Wikidata linking templates such as {{official URL}}, {{wd-ceo}}, {{wd-chairperson}} into the template documentation by default. These are handy in terms of keeping Infobox data consistent across different languages (in the pretext that the other Wikipedia language sites have this in place as well, currently seen on en zh jp) and Wikidata. JohnLim99 (talk) 02:50, 29 August 2025 (UTC)Reply