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September 1
editNEW NOMINATIONS
editCategory:American folk musical groups
edit- Propose renaming Category:American folk musical groups to Category:American folk music groups
- Propose renaming Category:Azerbaijani folk musical groups to Category:Azerbaijani folk music groups
- Propose renaming Category:Bolivian folk musical groups to Category:Bolivian folk music groups
- Propose renaming Category:Chilean folk musical groups to Category:Chilean folk music groups
- Propose renaming Category:Finnish folk musical groups to Category:Finnish folk music groups
- Propose renaming Category:Irish folk musical groups to Category:Irish folk music groups
- Propose renaming Category:Norwegian folk musical groups to Category:Norwegian folk music groups
- Propose renaming Category:Venezuelan folk musical groups to Category:Venezuelan folk music groups
- Nominator's rationale: Several categories out of phase with their tree. The base category is Category:Folk music groups, and most of their country-level siblings in Category:Folk music groups by nationality are named the same way, but this set is at "musical" instead of music. But the tree should be consistent so that the ___location of any category is readily predictable, so these should be named the same way as the others. Bearcat (talk) 16:32, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Category:China orchestras
edit- Propose renaming Category:China orchestras to Category:Chinese orchestras
- Propose renaming Category:Chinese orchestras to Category:Chinese music orchestras (or alternative, if somebody's got a better suggestion)
- Nominator's rationale: Category out of phase with its siblings in Category:Orchestras by nationality, but with a significant problem because the expected name is already in use for a variant purpose (which is why I can't just speedy it).
All other country-level siblings are at "[Demonym] orchestras" (American, British, Canadian, French, etc.) rather than "[Country name] orchestras", with not a single other exception that I've located (except New Zealand, where the country name is the demonym and thus isn't really an exception) -- but in this case, the demonym is instead being used for orchestras anywhere in the world that perform Chinese music in the genre sense of the term, thus pushing the category for orchestras based in China to an outlier form instead of the standard one.
However, it's an important principle of the category system that the category names need to be as consistent and predictable as possible, to minimize confusion and misfiling -- so the category for Chinese-music-as-a-genre ensembles needs to be at a different name, so that the category for orchestras based in China can be named the same way as its sibling categories for other countries are. Bearcat (talk) 15:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I don't really have a strong opinion here, since it seems so fraught either way. But this was discussed earlier at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_December_17#Category:China_orchestras. Basically the argument was similar, and there are several other suggestions for naming, but it was closed no consensus. Rigadoun (talk) 21:14, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Category:Alumni by university or college
edit- Propose renaming Category:Alumni by university or college to Category:Alumni of universities and colleges
- Nominator's rationale: Or Category:University or college alumni. While the current name of this category (with "by") appears to be correct at first glance, examining its contents reveals that the current name is misleading. Instead of expected sorting of alumni by university or college, it contains, primarily, sorting of university and college alumni by continent, plus three semi-random sorting categories. As it is not a sorting "by university or college", but just a conceptually higher level category - the top category for all alumnis of universities as colleges (as opposed to alumnis of other types of institutions, such as high schools or fellowships), a name change is in order, with no prejudice to such category being recreated when it contains, as the name would suggest, sorting of alumnis by, well, university or college. Note that the name change I propose would also alignt it with the current wikidata. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:12, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Players of Australian rules football
edit- Propose renaming Category:Players of Australian rules football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Australian rules footballers
- Propose renaming Category:Players of Australian rules football by nationality (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Australian rules footballers by nationality
- Propose renaming Category:LGBTQ players of Australian rules football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:LGBTQ Australian rules footballers
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of players of Australian rules football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Lists of Australian rules footballers
- Propose renaming Category:Players of Australian rules football with chronic traumatic encephalopathy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Australian rules footballers with chronic traumatic encephalopathy
- Nominator's rationale: More natural and other subcategories of Category:Players of Australian rules football already use the proposed format. The current format makes sense for the subcategories of Category:Players of Australian rules football by nationality, because it avoids awkward constructs like "Australian Australian rules footballers", but for categories without nationalities, no such issues exist and Australian at the start isn't likely to cause confusion. Category:Gaelic footballers is comparible. Mclay1 (talk) 06:12, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Timelines of Australia by state
edit- Propose merging Category:New South Wales timelines (2 P) to Category:Australian timelines and Category:History of New South Wales
- Propose merging Category:Queensland timelines (2 P) to Category:Australian timelines and Category:History of Queensland
- Propose merging Category:South Australian timelines (2 P) to Category:Australian timelines and Category:History of South Australia
- Propose merging Category:Tasmanian timelines (1 P) to Category:Australian timelines and Category:History of Tasmania
- Nominator's rationale: merge, only 1 or 2 articles in each category, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Neoplasms
edit- Propose renaming Category:Neoplasms to Category:Neoplasia
- Propose renaming Category:Benign neoplasms to Category:Benign neoplasia
- Propose renaming Category:Hematologic neoplasms to Category:Hematologic neoplasia
- Nominator's rationale: rename, most subcategories in Category:Types of neoplasia use "neoplasia" instead of "neoplasms". I have not listed this at speedy because I am also keeping into account that the renaming might need to be the other way around. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – I'm not sure about whether any of the categories should be renamed because I don't know anything about the topic. For context, a neoplasm is a type of growth (the plural is neoplasms), and neoplasia is the process by which neoplasms grow. Either way, surely Category:Types of neoplasia should be upmerged to Category:Neoplasms, since Category:Neoplasms currently does not contain anything except that subcategory and the article Neoplasm. Category:Neoplasms can be added to Category:Types of cancer. Mclay1 (talk) 06:23, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Category:Ugandan women bloggers
edit- Propose merging Category:Ugandan women bloggers to Category:Women bloggers
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. underpopulated category SMasonGarrison 02:44, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 1 September 2025 (UTC)