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Category:New Zealand netball to Category:Netball in New Zealand

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The result of the debate was Rename and standardize. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:22, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Another one which escaped the mass renaming of sport by country categories to the "in" form. Rename category:Netball in New Zealand CalJW 22:32, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Article merge in progress

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The result of the debate was Delete -- Rick Block (talk) 18:19, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This subcategory has been unused since 22 June 2005, when it was deemed unnecessarily specific and removed from the {{merging}} template (in favor of the parent Articles to be merged category). Delete. —Lifeisunfair 21:23, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Linked from Slashdot

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The result of the debate was Delete -- Rick Block (talk) 18:23, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This category was used in conjunction with the {{slashdotted}} template, which was nominated for deletion. The TfD consensus was to generalize the template, so I renamed it {{high-traffic}}. At the time, I expressed strong opposition to the inclusion of a category, and urged anyone in disagreement to discuss the matter before creating a new one or proposing that the existing one be renamed. It's been over two weeks, and no one has raised the issue, so I believe that it's appropriate to delete the unused category. —Lifeisunfair 21:23, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Electronic-album stubs

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The result of the debate was Speedy delete. --Mairi 16:38, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I created this in error. Was meant to be Category:Electronic album stubs. 80.203.115.12 13:20, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cavite Politicians

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 15:02, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Politicians for a province of the Phillipines. Orphaned. Underutilized, and Category:Politicians of the Philippines is sufficient for every other province. Delete. -- SCZenz 08:03, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:19th_century_meteorology for deletion

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The result of the debate was Delete -- Rick Block (talk) 18:25, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The category is empty, and Category:Meteorology topics by year includes yearly and decadal categories to be used instead. Jdorje 06:28, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:EHG for deletion

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The result of the debate was Delete -- Rick Block (talk) 18:26, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to be merely a vanity "category" that doesn't actually categorize anything and only pollutes the encyclopedia. Cyde 05:46, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. history of women's rights to Category:History of women's rights in the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 11:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbrev. jengod 05:14, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Historic U.S. weather events to Category:Historic weather events in the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 11:23, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbrev. jengod 05:12, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. history of civil unrest to Category:Riots and civil unrest in the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 13:09, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbrev; add "riots" to conform with other national subcats in "riots" category. jengod 05:09, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pastafarian Wikipedians to Category:Flying Spaghetti Monsterist Wikipedians

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The result of the debate was merge as nominated --Kbdank71 15:07, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

AFAIK, these two terms are completely synonymous (at least, it'd be silly to have differing sects of FSM), and I think Flying Spaghetti Monsterism is more inclusive and to the point, and less likely to get confused with Rastafarianism. --ParkerHiggins 05:05, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Christianity is an actual religion with real history. Do you honestly think there are sincere and observant Flying Spaghetti Monsterists at Wiki or anywhere?--T. Anthony 01:22, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
FSM has real history too and I see nothing bether in christianity that fsm does not have. And fsm is funny while christianity is not. And if there should be a god it rely does not matther if he is a old man or a Flying Spaghetti Monster as we could never detect or verify it. helohe 15:24, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Flying Spaghetti Monsterism is a joke religion and categorized as such. It was created this year it seems so you are wrong about it having a history. It is not recognized as a religion by any nation on Earth. That you "see nothing bether in christianity" is your choice, but irrelevant. Because whether you see good in something or not says little about whether it's an actual group or religion. I see little good in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, but I'd concede they are an actual religion with a real history. This isn't one and I see no reason to think it will become one. The whole point of it is mostly to be a satire on Intelligent Design.--T. Anthony 05:43, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:U.S. history timelines to Category:United States history timelines

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 13:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Timelines of the history of the United States sounds to my ear as though there are multiple alternative timelines/histories. jengod 04:52, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:History by state of the United States to Category:Histories of the states of the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 15:12, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This categories and subcategories are not really about the history of the whole U.S. chopped up into state-size pieces, but for the most part about the histories of the individual states and state-specific events. jengod 04:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:History of the U.S. South to Category:History of the Southern United States

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 15:09, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbrev. jengod 04:47, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. historical regions and territories to Category:Historical regions and territories of the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 19:24, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbrev. jengod 04:46, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. political history to Category:Political history of the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 11:50, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbrev. jengod 04:45, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. nuclear history to Category:History of the nuclear weapons program of the United States

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The result of the debate was no consensus as to new name --Kbdank71 15:12, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nuclear history could describe radioactive history, and that's no fun for anybody :) jengod 04:44, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 18:45, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Language jengod 04:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. history of labor relations to Category:History of labor relations in the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 18:31, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviation jengod 04:39, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. history of LGBT rights to Category:History of LGBT civil rights in the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename as proposed. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:35, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbrev. of US>>United States; alternative options are: Category:History of civil rights movement for non-heterosexual people in the United States or Category:History of civil rights movement for gay, lesbian, bisexual and/or transgendered people in the United States

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Category:Storm for deletion

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The result of the debate was Delete -- Rick Block (talk) 18:36, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Storms is used instead. Jdorje 04:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. immigration history to Category:History of immigration to the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 14:39, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviation jengod 04:30, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. government history to Category:History of the United States government

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 18:28, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviation jengod 04:30, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. history of foreign relations to Category:History of foreign relations of the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 10:54, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviation jengod 04:28, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. history of expansionism to Category:History of United States expansionism

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 10:53, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviation jengod 04:26, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. history by ethnic group to Category:History of the United States by ethnic group

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 10:53, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviation jengod 04:24, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. colonial history to Category:History of colonial America

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The result of the debate was no consensus for new name --Kbdank71 15:14, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviation; colonized America is not coextensive to colonial America; current title could refer to America as colonizer; and before anyone attacks the use of America to refer to the USA, there was no United States at the time. I believe this is the clearest and shortest way to name this category.

Comment--how do we distinguish between articles about the colonies that became the U.S. (which is what the category currently is) from articles about all the colonies in the Americas? older≠wiser 14:47, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
An additional ambiguity to be avoided is distinguishing from articles about U.S. colonialism (Philipines, Puerto Rico, Iraq, etc.) As it is, the current category name could easily be misinterpreted as being about U.S. colonialism. older≠wiser 13:29, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:U.S. city histories to Category:Histories of cities in the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Martin 18:16, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The abbreviation haters are coming--I can feel it. Might as well control the outcome. jengod 04:15, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Doctors by nationality to Physicians by nationality

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The result of the debate was Do not rename -- Rick Block (talk) 18:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Australian doctors to Category:Australian physicians
Category:British doctors to Category:British physicians
Category:English doctors to Category:English physicians
Category:Hong Kong doctors to Category:Hong Kong physicians
Category:Indian doctors to Category:Indian physicians
Category:Irish doctors to Category:Irish physicians
Category:Scottish doctors to Category:Scottish physicians
Category:Singaporean doctors to Category:Singaporean physicians
Category:Welsh doctors to Category:Welsh physicians

This rename will bring uniformity of terminology to Category:Physicians by nationality, and it's better word choice anyway—"Doctor" is a title and applies to lots of non-medical people, but "physician" is an unambiguous word for a profession. --Trovatore 03:09, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I note that there's a claim at Category:Physicians by nationality that this use of "physician" is specifically American. I don't know whether that's true, but if it is, then change all the Category:Fredonian doctors to Category:Fredonian medical doctors. --Trovatore 03:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This usage is proper and was agreed on this page more than once. Physician is very ambiguous internationally and the category blurb says so in the plainest terms. Why didn't you take account of that? In the UK most doctors could go to jail for claiming to be a physician, because they are not members of the Royal College of Physicians. Local variants in category names are acceptable for English speaking countries when necessitated by differences in usage. A slightly less sceptical attitude to claims made by other wikipedians would be agreeable, especially when a little research would show them to be true. Renaming all categories, including the American one, to "medical doctors" would be acceptable. CalJW 11:20, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as per CalJW. I recall this has been discussed before. I too would suggest that if uniformity is an issue then the term "medical doctor" would be the standard to aim for. Valiantis 14:45, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose If people are going to ignore the explanation, maybe we should go for the medical doctors option, but I'm not keen on it as it probably doesn't sound natural anywhere. Carina22 15:44, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment So how hard would it be to rename them all (including the ones now called "physicians") to "medical doctors"? I think that might be the best option, but there sure are a lot of them; I wouldn't want to have to be the one doing it by hand. --Trovatore 16:07, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • another idea actually, I suppose I'd be reasonably happy with a note in each of the "doctors" category explaining the linguistic difference and specifying that it's about medical doctors, not anyone who holds the title "Doctor". Bartlett's etiquette confirms that holders of doctorates may be addressed as "Doctor" (context may have been the outside envelope of an inviatation; not sure how general the advice was) so this is certainly not just an American thing. --Trovatore 22:19, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • No, it's not just American to use the title "Doctor" for a person with a doctorate. However, in both American and Commonwealth usage the phrase "he is a doctor" would almost always be understood to mean "he practices medicine". If one wanted to say that a person had a doctorate, one would tend to say "he has a doctorate" or (dependent on the specific qualification) "he is a PhD". I'm not clear on what relevance this has to the re-naming proposal. Valiantis 14:21, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        • That's true in the States, too, of course. My view is that "Doctor" is properly a title, used informally for an occupation. When thus used, it's not really ambiguous, just a little informal. --Trovatore 17:22, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose this nomination and support renaming the supra-cat to Category:Medical doctors by nationality and do likewise for these. -Mayumashu 15:26, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roger Ebert's Great Movies

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The result of the debate was Delete -- Rick Block (talk) 18:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional homunculi

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The result of the debate was Delete -- Rick Block (talk) 18:55, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Throwing this up again; completely esoteric subject. Has only obtained one or two new articles in a few months. Apostrophe 00:11, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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