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Category:History of Mendicant orders

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The result of the debate was delete for reasons stated. Syrthiss 14:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Everything in this cat would be better off in the cats dealing with the individual orders. Necrothesp 22:34, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:TG16 games to Category:TurboGrafx 16 games

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated. Syrthiss 14:03, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Same as below: unnecessary abbreviation. Seancdaug 21:48, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:TG16 to Category:TurboGrafx 16

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated, expansion of acronyms. Syrthiss 14:02, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary abbreviation. Seancdaug 21:46, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:U.S. ambassadors to Category:Ambassadors of the United States

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The result of the debate was merge as nominated. Syrthiss 14:00, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into much larger (and abbrevation free) duplicate. Sumahoy 20:03, 1 February 2006 (UTC).[reply]


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Category:Fictional nudists

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The result of the debate was keep --Kbdank71 21:46, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The only article so far is Loxie & Zoot. --(trogga) 19:49, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Give it a few months to fill up, if nothing happens bring it back here. Arniep 01:13, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep. That a category has few entries is only a reason to delete it if it doesn't have the potential to expand in the future, and that doesn't seem to apply here; nudism is unusual and noteworthy enough in modern society to be worth having a few categories for. It couldn't hurt to wait a while longer and see if any other characters are added to the category; if none are in the future, we can always delete it later, no harm done. Plus most of the "fictional characters" categories are currently very underpopulated: see Category:Fictional athletes (1 entry!), Category:Fictional Mormons (1 entry), Category:Fictional golems (2 entries), Category:Plant characters, etc. A minor awareness-raising campaign would probably help get people to add more characters to categories like this. Whether there are enough fictional nudists out there to merit a category like this, I don't know; problem is, the only way to find out is to leave the category be for a bit longer. -Silence 23:59, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I just added Ugly Naked Guy, and if I can think of one, others might be able to as well.--Mike Selinker 00:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Motor racing drivers of Australia to Category:Australian racecar drivers, and Category:Racecar drivers from Liechtenstein to Category:Liechtenstein racecar drivers

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The result of the debate was merge and rename as nominated. Syrthiss 13:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Change to match all other categories in Category:Racecar drivers by nationality. There's an odd redirect page from the Australian page that gives no explanation why it might be different.--Mike Selinker 19:23, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Canadian Americans to Category:Canadian-Americans

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Syrthiss 13:57, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from speedy since there were issues raised. Vegaswikian 19:18, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hyphen is required a compound between "Canadian" and "Americans". adnghiem501 09:54, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do not rename. New name is ungrammatical. A hyphen is used for adjectives, not nouns. DHN 18:21, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Some adjectives for the names of countries connected with Americans are still used with a hyphen for categories. I've deliberately disagreed changing a new name. In other words, I've seen Category:French-Americans was renamed to Category:French Americans by a user's request. French is an adjective used to describe Americans as a noun. adnghiem501 00:00, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Hyphenated American categories are, I have always assumed, for people with American nationality who are also notable for their particular ethnicity. What are the defining characteristics of Canadian ethnicity? Is this ethnically French-Canadian or ethnically Anglophone Canadian? What about the many Hyphenated Canadians; do they become Polish-Canadian-Americans etc. if they take US citizenship? The cat has no definition in it and there is no corresponding article Canadian American or Canadian-American (or similar) which strongly suggests that there is no such thing as a Canadian-American (with or without hyphen). (Currently the cat includes people born in Canada who later took American citizenship, people born in America whose parents were Canadian, people who live in America but retain their Canadian nationality, and numerous other combinations). Valiantis 20:46, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the old category but don't rename it. adnghiem501 23:51, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 00:12, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Forgive my ignorance on this but aren't Canadians Americans anyway by virtue of living in North America? :P Green Giant 23:20, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename. Keep unrenamed (this is a national origin and not necessarily an ethnicity category) from discussion below, the hyphen makes the name an adjective and not a noun Mayumashu 03:13, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Vietnamese Americans to Category:Vietnamese-Americans

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The result of the debate was keep --Kbdank71 21:47, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from speedy since there were issues raised. Vegaswikian 19:18, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hyphen is required a compound between "Vietnamese" and "Americans". adnghiem501 09:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do not rename. New name is ungrammatical. A hyphen is used for adjectives, not nouns. DHN 18:21, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"A hypen is used for adjectives, not nouns". Where did you get that? There are even *people* whose last names (surely the ultimate in nouns) are hypenated. 12.73.195.189 00:45, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Some adjectives for the names of countries connected with Americans are still used with a hyphen for categories. I've deliberately disagreed changing a new name. In other words, I've seen Category:French-Americans was renamed to Category:French Americans by a user's request. French is an adjective used to describe Americans as a noun. adnghiem501 00:00, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

do not rename name needs to be a noun Mayumashu 03:18, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Merkur vehicles to Category:Ford vehicles

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The result of the debate was no consensus (and I don't have a feel for which solution is better). Syrthiss 13:55, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Subcategory with only one entry. Merkur only made two cars, the XR4ti, and the Scorpio. Merkur Scorpio is a redirect to Ford Scorpio. There is no room for more growth. Should be merged. Pc13 19:06, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a possibility. Merkurs were sold through Lincoln-Mercury dealerships, and there are less vehicles in the Mercury category, which would adress Bhoeble's concern. --Pc13 13:47, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The way Category:Ford vehicles is set up is unusual, with Ford-branded models in the top level category and all other brands subcategorized. Compare that to Category:General Motors vehicles where GM and Chevrolet are peers, and there are a few stragglers that aren't subcategorized at all. It's Ford's weird setup that makes the proposed awkward for me. Unless we're going to rock that boat, though, I'll weakly advocate that we keep the category. ×Meegs 06:57, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:World War II British battleships to Category:World War II battleships of the United Kingdom

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The result of the debate was rename. Syrthiss 13:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only sub cat of Category:World War II battleships to not fit format per naming policy. Rename. Josh 18:20, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Americans living in the UK to Category:American people living in the United Kingdom

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The result of the debate was rename with modification. Syrthiss 13:52, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For reasons of naming consistency and abbreviation avoidance, primarily. – Seancdaug 17:29, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Drug Free Wikipedians to Category:Drug-Free Wikipedians

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The result of the debate was rename to Drug-free, two grammar errors for the price of one cfd. Syrthiss 13:48, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both are highly populated. I'm kinda hoping against hope that this does not devolve into a vote to delete both, because I'm really just trying to clean up the duplication here. Unfortuneately, it likely will. Whichever, the second is the more gramatically correct, and there's really no reason for both to be in use. - TexasAndroid 16:37, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge into since the second one has the gramatically correct title. --Vizcarra 22:23, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as per nom. I believe one or the other already survived a delete vote a few months back. All non-silly user cats should be allowable. Valiantis 20:54, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. Both are sending the same point across: they're drug-free. Since the second one is more gramatically correct, we should merge the ungramatically correct list into the correct one, as proposed. —Mirlen 23:20, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge into Drug-Free Wikipedians suggests Wikipedians who are free of drugs, but without the hyphen it sounds like a command - i.e. Drug all Free Wikipedians :P Green Giant 23:25, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy merge, trivial spelling error. If we hold weeks-long votes for every single one of the hundreds of Wikipedia user categories that have a minor title error, it will be years before any semblance of consistency or coherency reaches many categories. -Silence 23:50, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose this nom, speedy merge to Category:Drug-free Wikipedians instead. Why correct one grammatical error (lack of a dash) while not correcting another one (unnecessary capitalization)? Wikipedia categories are not capitalized except where they would be in normal conversation: it's "drug-free" ("Drug-free" at the start of a line), not "Drug-Free". -Silence 18:49, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Very good point. Hopefully it's not too late that this will cause a no-conscensous, but I would support this alternate renaming as an even more proper alternative. - TexasAndroid 20:04, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:IL GABRI

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The result of the debate was was speedy deleted. Syrthiss 20:10, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is 1) in a foreign language, and 2) an article, not a category Bluap 15:31, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Abbeys

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The result of the debate was merge or rename as listed. Syrthiss 13:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with appropriate Monasteries in... category and delete. The abbey cats seem unnecessary. All abbeys are monasteries and a large number of monasteries are abbeys. The standard categorisation is Category:Monasteries by country.

Also rename the following cats:

Necrothesp 14:39, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. In England and Wales in particular, abbeys are far better known for being churches, since almost all of them have not been monasteries since the 16th century. The vast majority of people would never consider places like Westminster Abbey as monasteries and wouldn't even be aware they ever had been. Grutness...wha? 05:32, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This is a sensible and necessary change, considering the category as a whole. The current use of "Abbeys in.." ( or "Abbeys and Priories in... ") forces an awkward and artificial dislocation in categorisation when dealing with religious houses, which is what these are, and of which there are many more worldwide than churches in the UK that used to be abbeys. Some abbeys in the UK are indeed now churches; many others are stately homes; but "abbeys" by definition are monasteries, as per nominator. There is no reason why extra links and redirects can't clarify the individual UK exceptions, for which it is not worth spoiling the whole category.Staffelde 08:50, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as per nom. Bhoeble 22:41, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Actors who committed suicide in their 60s to Category:Entertainers who committed suicide in their 60s

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The result of the debate was merge, bring a separate cfd discussion for entertainers who committed suicide in their XXs please. Syrthiss 13:44, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actors are covered by the Category:Entertainers who committed suicide family of categories. I just finished converting a number of red-cat articles from various "Actor Suicide" listings to the "Entertainer Suicide" listings. Then I discovered this one actor suicide category actually existed. But since it's the only one and is already covered by an existing set of categories, IMHO this one should be merged into the one that is more widely used. - TexasAndroid 14:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both. Overcategorisation. Valiantis 14:59, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both. As per Valiantis. -- Necrothesp 15:32, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please. If you want to delete the second, fine. Set up a CFD on it, though it makes little sense to me to delete the one for 60s without deleting the rest of the ages. And the whole lot survived a CFD very recently. While I have no issue for/against that CFD being done again, I would really, really, not like this CFM to devolve into it and lose sight of the issue at hand, the one lonely actor suicide category. Also, given how divided that previous CFD was, a rerun of it deserves it's own CFD, with full tagging etc. To quietly delete just the 60s cat, without even tagging it for CFD (which I have no intention of doing) is improper. So please, if you want to trim out the age based suicide categories, please work up a separate CFD for it and please do not derail/detour this current one into an issue that has such potential to overshadow the current CFD. - TexasAndroid 15:56, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. I agree it is overcat as well probably would say delete both, but as Texas said, that is for another CfD. Josh 18:34, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Illegal sports

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The result of the debate was delete. Syrthiss 13:41, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whether something is illegal or not varies from time to time and place to place. The category system cannot express these subtleties. Cock fighting, which is in the category, is not illegal in Mexico and probably lots of other places, but boxing, which isn't, is illegal in at least one European country. Delete CalJW 10:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Sorry - problem caused by inclusion of entire Category:Baiting. Now fixed. GCarty 15:10, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Bull-baiting is not the same as Bull fighting. The first is illegal in most countries and involves baiting, the second is humans against bulls.
Rename to Category:Sports illegal in most countries? GCarty 15:10, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP and Comment This category is acceptable and accurate. In regard to baiting sports they are illegal in most countries with varying degrees of enforcement. I think if a sport is considered illegal in the vast majority of countries it should be included. SirIsaacBrock 17:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Electronic Components

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The result of the debate was Speedy delete, by RHaworth, created in error and creator wanted it deleted. Bobet 13:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

empty cat (so far) created by user:Oasiselec who is currently in the process of creating numerous advertising articles, presumably to be categorised in here once done. this bizzarely is a super-cat of "eletrical components" Delete Zunaid 10:45, 1 February 2006 (UTC).[reply]

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Category:Defunct MLB teams to Category:Defunct Major League Baseball teams

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The result of the debate was rename. Syrthiss 13:40, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Expanding abbreviation. - EurekaLott 01:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Cleanup from February 2005

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 21:45, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category. Kerowyn 00:50, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

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Category:Austrian terrorists

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 21:43, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus already exists, see Peruvian Terrorists Descendall 00:47, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Bangladeshi terrorists

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 21:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus already exists, see Peruvian Terrorists Descendall 00:47, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:British terrorists

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 21:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus already exists, see Peruvian Terrorists Descendall 00:47, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Canadian terrorists

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 21:41, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus already exists, see Peruvian Terrorists Descendall 00:47, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:American terrorists

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 21:41, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus already exists, see Peruvian Terrorists Descendall 00:45, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Phytonomy

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 20:04, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Weird and unused offshot of Category:Botany, currently an orphan, delete.--nixie 00:30, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Non-notable Wikipedians

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 20:03, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unusable category abakharev 00:27, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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