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Map of the Kingdom of Jerusalem
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We have plenty of maps of the kingdom and the other crusader states (here, here, here). Yet none of them... look right. What I would be most grateful for is a simple map showing important towns, castles, and bishoprics. This may or may not include borders of the kingdom; if it does, I would ask for a version with post-1153 borders and a version without borders. A good source would be Malcolm Barber's 2012 book The Crusader States, more precisely this map within it. Such a map would be useful in dozens of articles. Surtsicna (talk) 22:04, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Discussion
- It would have been great if you used the "New request" link at the top as it gives a structure to the requests which is easier for every one.
- I can help you with this but remember I have zero knowledge of the topic so you have to be clear on what you want, thanks.
- What I understand you basically want is a "copy" of the linked map, but I can only use it as information source and not directly copy it. --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:17, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- I understand that it cannot be directly copied, @Goran tek-en. I would be fine with the addition of, say, rivers or even a full relief map or whatever is needed to make it different. Perhaps this map by Steven Runciman (A History of the Crusades) would also help to make something different. It is very difficult to find maps with borders in reliable sources because borders in the Middle Ages were very fluid, but Runciman's dashed lines might be helpful. Please note that there is a border between Jebeil (County of Tripoli) and Beirut (Kingdom of Jerusalem). Perhaps this inconstancy of borders could be denoted with a fading or smudged color? I don't know. So to be clear:
- A very simple map with the towns, castles, and bishoprics would be a priority.
- An attempt to portray the borders as they were in 1165 (Runciman's map) would be nice to see if you can bother to give it a try, but do not make them too clear-cut.
- Thanks for picking this up and I am looking forward to seeing your creative input. Surtsicna (talk) 18:51, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Request taken by --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:17, 19 August 2025 (UTC).
- @Surtsicna Would it be possible for you to provide me with links for the two maps which isn't imgur but a more lasting link. I always want to declare the sources even for information.
- I will be back with a draft and we can work from there, thanks for your knowledge. --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:09, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- If you mean citations, @Goran tek-en, here they are:
- Barber, Malcolm (2012). The Crusader States. Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0300189315.
- Runciman, Steven (1952). A History of the Crusades, Volume 2: The Kingdom of Jerusalem and the Frankish East, 1100–1187. Cambridge University Press. OCLC 1035592581.
- I can give you the page numbers tonight. Surtsicna (talk) 11:22, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna
- Thanks, is there a specific color which is associated with that Kingdom? --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 09:47, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Not in this time period, but we could go with gold, which is attested in the 13th century. Surtsicna (talk) 13:34, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna
- Everything is up for change in those drafts.
- You asked for "important towns, castles, and bishoprics", you have to tell me missed towns, castles, and bishoprics you have to tell me where (coordinates if possible) and I will add symbols and names.
- Ones everything is set we can do versions, with or without borders and other.
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- Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
- Those drafts are shown for proofreading only.
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- --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:18, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, you certainly made it look different, @Goran tek-en! I think the rivers and the relief help a lot. I have a few notes:
- The kingdom is not usually considered to have encompassed the land north of Beirut. In Runciman's map you will notice a dashed land north of Beirut denoting a border between the kingdom and the County of Tripoli.
- I like the first draft (without the line) better and I would even propose smudging the border a bit more in the southern area where it was really porous.
- The missing (and important) towns are Shaizar (close to Homs), al-Arish (to the south), the Monastery of St Sabas (near Bethlehem), Lydda (near Ramla), Sebaste (near Nablus), Arsuf (north of Jaffa), Mount Tabor (near Tiberias), Baisan (south of Tiberias), Toron and Banias (east of Tyre), Bosra (far south of Damascus), Montreal (south of Kerak).
- It might be useful to mark the monasteries, bishoprics, archbishoprics, and patriarchate as they are in Barber's map–just so that a major city like Acre or Tyre is not on the same footing as a single monastery.
- Daron should be Darum.
- The relative positions of Darum, Gaza, and Ascalon do not match those in Barber or those in Runciman (and they differ between Barber and Runciman). I do not know what to make of it. Surtsicna (talk) 22:16, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna
- Draft kingdom area 2
- Border north, on that map the border north-south is dashed all the way. There is a small line west-east just above Beirut, I can't see any dashed land.
- Is the black line below Beirut correct?
- If this is correct we can cut away quite a bit up north, red line?
- South, softer? If so tell me south-west south-east...
- Shaizar, on todays map it's south of the river but the old is north of river, which?
- If there are any major cities you want to be marked out, list them.
- I have adjust the cities which differ between the maps to something in between. It is extremely difficult to compare a position between different maps and specially old ones compared to today's.
- Montreal is also much more south on Barber's map, move it?
- --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:40, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Goran tek-en,
- The border between the Kingdom of Jerusalem and the County of Tripoli as visible in Runciman's map is the solid black line starting at the coast between Jebeil and Beirut (it might be solid because it is too short to be dashed).
- The border in the draft map appears south of Beirut, but it should be just to the north, as Beirut belonged to the kingdom. I would also suggest restricting the golden color denoting the kingdom to the area up to Beirut, i.e. not north of it, as that's where the County of Tripoli was.
- I would not cut away at the north. It's important to show the neighbors for context.
- I think it is now soft enough in the south-west and could be a tad bit softer in the south-east.
- Old Shaizar (the fortress) was north of the Orontes. Let's put it there.
- Montreal's coordinates are 30°31′52.84″N 35°33′40.47″E.
- Might it be possibly to depict the internal division of the kingdom based on this map found in Jonathan Riley-Smith's The Feudal Nobility and the Kingdom of Jerusalem (1974)? It is fairly close to what we have in File:1889 The Kingdom of Jerusalem, shewing the Fiefs, about 1187 A.D..jpg. I would not know how to depict this internal division. Any kind of lines, even dashed like in Riley-Smith's map, would probably not match well with the smudged kingdom borders we have now.
- Surtsicna (talk) 10:03, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna
- Shaizar, I have put it where your link shows it, if this is not correct you have to give me another ___location.
- Before I see what I can do with the internal lines we have to decide which to use. In this draft the red lines are what I could see in the map we have at commons. The green lines are what I could see looking at the map by Jonathan Riley-Smith's.
- Using the grid you should be able to tell me which to use, thanks.
- Draft internal
- --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 14:50, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- I do not see the version with Shaizar anymore, but I think you had it right (on the Orontes, to the north). Let's go with Riley-Smith; it's newer scholarship. Thanks, @Goran tek-en! Surtsicna (talk) 15:52, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna
- Some of the borders up north is outside of the kingdom, remove or what?
- This is one example of borders, there are many ways to do them
- Draft kingdom 3
- --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:50, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please move the border just a little bit north so that Beirut is not sitting right on the border. The border should be closer to Jebeil (Runciman's map). I now see that the southern part of the kingdom looks a bit off without any internal borders, which may or may not be correct... I think it would be best to have a map without the internal borders and then another map with the internal borders but not showing the Negev. Surtsicna (talk) 20:55, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna
- I do not see the version with Shaizar anymore, but I think you had it right (on the Orontes, to the north). Let's go with Riley-Smith; it's newer scholarship. Thanks, @Goran tek-en! Surtsicna (talk) 15:52, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna
- @Goran tek-en,
- Oh, you certainly made it look different, @Goran tek-en! I think the rivers and the relief help a lot. I have a few notes:
- @Surtsicna
- Not in this time period, but we could go with gold, which is attested in the 13th century. Surtsicna (talk) 13:34, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- If you mean citations, @Goran tek-en, here they are:
world map with stripes
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World map with stripes -
SVG
- Article(s)
- Wikipedia:Blank maps
- Request
Hi, Can somebody please create an svg file of it? I would like to adjust the map for updating an existing map on Wikipedia. Please in a way that it's possible to change the colors of both strips for all countries separately on Inkscape or with the Windows app Editor -- WikiPate (talk) 15:43, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Discussion
- @WikiPate: Can you please elaborate on the purpose of the SVG? If a country is fully covered by one stripe, what is the point of chenging the alternate stripe colour? (Please ping me in your answer.) cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 23:49, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Cmglee I want to update this map: File:EU FTA 2024.svg. For example Morrocco has both an FTA in force and a new one on hold.
- And I want to keep this map updates for the future: File:Countries served by Wizz Air from the UAE.svg.
- I only have Inkscape and afaik it's not possible to create colored stripes with Inkscape. (But Inkscape can turn a striped country into a non-striped country.) I don't want to ask people in the future everytime a new country needs to be striped so this is the work-around.
- It does not happen that one country is fully covered by one stripe, because small countries are shown as a circle. It would be nice if every circle of those small countries could be covered by 50% of the first and 50% by the second color. WikiPate (talk) 07:46, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @WikiPate: How does this look? I haven't worked on the circles yet. Similar to commons:File:BlankMap-World.svg, the colours can be specified using the top-level-___domain country code but appending 1 and 2 to specify the two fills e.g. in [the first version of] this map:
.aq1 { fill:#9cf; } .aq2 { fill:#6cf; }
.cl1 { fill:#f00; } .cl2 { fill:#f66; }
.id1 { fill:#0fc; } .id2 { fill:#0c9; }
.ru1 { fill:#ff0; } .ru2 { fill:#fc0; }
.va1 { fill:#f0f; } .va2 { fill:#f6f; }
cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 00:46, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- P.S. The angle I used works better with New Zealand and Japan. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 00:53, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Cmglee: Yes looks very good. I tried to change the color of a country and it worked! With including the method for the circles, it should be finished.
- Including the link "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_code_top-level_domain" would be nice for other editors to find the country codes faster.
- And putting the code for changing the country colors to the very top of the svg code would be also helpful. As this is the main thing editors will change in the future. Editors will likely not change the colors of the oceans and strokes or the size of the circles. WikiPate (talk) 16:17, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
Done @WikiPate: Thanks, I've split the spots in the opposite direction and updated the example to show solid and striped use as below. I'll leave it to someone else to update the documentation; do let me know if the following example code is unclear. Cheers, cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 19:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Cmglee Thank you! The FTA map is also finished: File:EU FTA 2024.svg.
- I added a description on the Wikimedia Commons page on how to update the map and hope, that editors will follow it. WikiPate (talk) 15:34, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
/* Solid */
.cl { fill:#0c0; }
.st { fill:#f00; }
/* Striped */
.aq1 { fill:#ff0; } .aq2 { fill:#fc0; }
.bm1 { fill:#00f; } .bm2 { fill:#9cf; }
.cu1 { fill:#c00; } .cu2 { fill:#960; }
.it1 { fill:#09f; } .it2 { fill:#6cf; }
.jp1 { fill:#f0f; } .jp2 { fill:#f6f; }
.nz1 { fill:#000; } .nz2 { fill:#666; }
2025 Tour de France Femmes
edit- Article(s)
- 2025 Tour de France Femmes
- Request
- Hi, I'm looking for someone to do a free version of the 2025 Tour de France Femmes map - the official one is here. As previously, I asked Andrei loas who has previously done excellent maps (e.g. this for the 2015 men's race) if he could create one, but he hasn't got back to me unfortunately.
- Three examples - excellent maps from previous years by M.Bitton and Groetjes, Peter.
- The Tour de France Femmes is now Wikipedia:ITN/R, so I hope that a map can neatly illustrate the article. Thanks in advance! Turini2 (talk) 10:30, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Discussion
- I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Groetjes, Peter (talk) 11:06, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Please don't forget to give the appropriate credit. M.Bitton (talk) 11:37, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hey, just to politely remind you about this - thanks! Turini2 (talk) 10:02, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hey another ask for this - as the event started yesterday! Turini2 (talk) 11:16, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Groetjes, Peter hey? just to chase you about this, given this will likely be on the front page after this weekend. Thanks! Turini2 (talk) 20:04, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
Perth metropolitan area
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Local government areas in and surrounding the Perth metropolitan region -
SVG map
- Article(s)
- Perth, Perth metropolitan region, Metropolitan Region Scheme, and six articles on other Wikipedias
- Request
- This is a GIF. Could you create an SVG with the same content? Nyttend (talk) 20:15, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Discussion
- Are those "Shire of X" necessary? From what I can tell, they are unrelated to the Perth metropolitan region. M.Bitton (talk) 23:39, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Are you questioning the boundaries, or the labels, or both? I think it's useful to include both, since they show the bordering councils and provide a little additional context: here are the metropolitan councils, and also here are the borders of the ones just outside the metropolitan area. Nyttend (talk) 19:45, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
Request taken. I will include as much of what's mentioned in Perth metropolitan region as possible (we can always remove what's unnecessary afterwards). M.Bitton (talk) 20:11, 15 July 2025 (UTC)- Done @Nyttend: please let me know if I missed something. The only part that I'm not convinced about is Kings park (I have no idea why it's highlighted). M.Bitton (talk) 15:59, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- M.Bitton Thanks very much! The Kings Park article says that the park is an unincorporated area (one of just two in the state, along with Houtman Abrolhos), so probably it's coloured differently to show that it's not part of any of these councils. Nyttend (talk) 20:21, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- PS, Rottnest Island is also unincorporated. Could you change it to the same colour as Kings Park? Nyttend (talk) 20:23, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Done @Nyttend: I added it as an extra layer that can be hidden if needs be. M.Bitton (talk) 23:33, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! And now I see what you mean by "Shire of X" — to take the tiniest example, I thought you were wondering whether "Shire of Peppermint Grove" should be removed, but now I see you just wanted to cut it down to "Peppermint Grove". No complaints on my part; someone wanting to know the status of an individual council can look this up somewhere else. Nyttend (talk) 07:46, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Are you questioning the boundaries, or the labels, or both? I think it's useful to include both, since they show the bordering councils and provide a little additional context: here are the metropolitan councils, and also here are the borders of the ones just outside the metropolitan area. Nyttend (talk) 19:45, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
Location map of Somalia's administrative divisions and federal members
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OCHA map of the member states, regions, and districts, 2023 -
Version of the current ___location map -
Version of the current district maps
- Article(s)
- Administrative divisions of Somalia, States and regions of Somalia
- Request
- Could someone make a new ___location map with Somalia's regions, districts, and states based on the UN map above? The state boundaries do cross the other boundaries, as seen by the third image in relation to the first, so maybe it'll be better to have federal member state boundaries as a separate map from the others. I can make the highlighted maps; I just need a base map(s). Note that since the creation of the first image, a new member state has been added, which, according to a The Economist map, claims the same area as that Somaliland-Puntland disputed area. -- Wowzers122 (talk) 04:55, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Discussion
- @Wowzers122: are you after the SVG version of the first map? M.Bitton (talk) 12:32, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- @M.Bitton: Yes. Wowzers122 (talk) 15:02, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Wowzers122: all of it or just the base map (without the text)? M.Bitton (talk) 15:05, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- @M.Bitton: Base like other ___location maps. Wowzers122 (talk) 15:10, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Wowzers122: all of it or just the base map (without the text)? M.Bitton (talk) 15:05, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- @M.Bitton: Yes. Wowzers122 (talk) 15:02, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Request taken by M.Bitton (talk) 13:23, 3 August 2025 (UTC).
Small amendment to SVG map of France in 1328
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Map of France in 1328
- Article(s)
- English claims to the French throne, Hundred Years' War + 10 other wp.en articles
- Request
- The map shows English territory in pink in France in 1328. However, it omits Ponthieu which is a small enclave in north east France on the coast of the English Channel. Source: see map here - Villalon, A.; Kagay, D. (2008). The Hundred Years War (Part II): Different Vistas. Brill. p. xxx. ISBN 978-90-474-4283-7.
- I believe this is the page of Muir's Historical Atlas which was the original source.
- Could the Ponthieu enclave be coloured pink per the source please? DeCausa (talk) 10:11, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Discussion
Yangtze River Economic Belt
editI am writing Draft:Yangtze River Economic Belt and I would like a map showing where it is. I believe it should include Yunnan, Guizhou, Sichuan, Chongqing, Hubei, Jiangxi, Jiangsu, Zhejiang, and Shanghai. Could any of you please make that map? Thanks, ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 17:24, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- I left out Anhui; please add that, too. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 17:31, 25 August 2025 (UTC)