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== "Powered by the Cheat" ==

'''''Dirty Harry''''' is a [[1971]] film directed by [[Don Siegel]]. It starred [[Clint Eastwood]] in his first outing as [[San Francisco Police Department]] inspector [['Dirty' Harry Callahan|"Dirty" Harry Callahan]].

doesn't the name "Tangerine Dreams" come from the pioneer electro-music band "Tangerine Dream" ?

If so then I guess it should be mentioned.

[[User:82.210.171.3|82.210.171.3]] 15:56, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

== PlotMissy Palmer ==

I personally think that the Missy Palmer thing should be merged. She is not a famous person, and she only plays a tiny part in the cartoons. She should be mentioned on the main article as the girlfriend of Mike, and the voice of Marzipan, but that's all. Agree or disagree? [[User:LordMooCow|LordMooCow]] 12:39, 3 July 2005 (GMT+10)

-- Missy is a pop culture icon now. she may not be on the Simpsons but she is well known for her voice role in HSR. I say leave her page as it.

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== Homestar Runner Wiki / Template ==

A serial killer nicknamed "Scorpio" (played by [[Andrew Robinson]]) is loose in San Francisco, killing civilians from a rooftop with a high velocity rifle. Scorpio blackmails the city and says he will kill one person every day until the city pays him a [[ransom]].

I've created a template for giving users a heads-up to the <nowiki>http://www.hrwiki.org</nowiki> (Homestar Runner Wiki), which looks like:

{{Hrwiki}}

Inspectors [[Harry Callahan (fictional character)|Harry Callahan]] (played by [[Clint Eastwood]]) and his new partner Gonzalez Chico (played by [[Reni Santoni]]) are assigned to the case much to the reluctance of Callahan, who doesn't wish to have a new partner. Callahan who has the titular nickname "Dirty Harry" has a reputation for taking on the most "dirty" cases and resolving them even if it means violating the rights of criminals.

...and started [[Template_talk:Hrwiki|a discussion attached to the template]] of how we might avoid unnecessary redundancy between the Wikis. If you find this subject of interest, please contribute to the discussion there.

A police helicopter prevents Scorpio's second attempt at murder but he escapes and manages to kill again the next day.

This article was partially (and poorly) replicated on the Homestar Runner Wiki, so I changed that wiki's page to a redirect to this one. Although I do think a lot of information should be centrally kept on HRWiki, this "encylopedic overview" should do its best to give a NPOV understanding of Homestar Runner and its significance as an internet phenomenon, and then redirect people back towards the HRWiki for less generally-relevant "fanstuff" (like Eh! Steve).

The police believe Scorpio is likely to choose the same position for his next murder. Callahan and Gonzales wait for him there and prevent him from killing his target, a Catholic priest. However, Scorpio again manages to escape, killing another police officer on the way.

--[[User:metaeducation|metaeducation]]

Scorpio then kidnaps a teenage girl and buries her alive. He raises his ransom and says it must be paid quickly as she only has enough air to last until 3:00 AM the next morning. The mayor ([[John Vernon]]) decides to give him the money and sends Callahan to take it to him.

Missy Palmer is not "a famous person", i agree with you on that, but her article should be left separate due to the fact that the general "homestar runner" article is growing very large as a result of popularity and such. She also needs her own site as she IS a main voice actor for the cartoon. (she does the voice of marzipan, as im sure you know, and marzipan is a major charicter for the most part).[[User:66.19.101.193|66.19.101.193]] 21:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)homestar_runner56

Scorpio sends Callahan to various point all around the city where he contacts him to tell Callahan where to go to next. Unbeknownst to Scorpio, Callahan has a [[Covert listening device|wire]] on him that allows Gonzales to monitor Callahan and follow him.

== Split ==

Eventually, Scorpio confronts Callahan and takes the money, but then beats Callahan and says he is going to kill him and the girl. Chico arrives at the scene and initiates a firefight with Scorpio, who Callahan then stabs in the leg with a concealed knife. Scorpio escapes, but without the money.

This article is starting to get unwieldy and kinda spoilish. I propose moving the character guide to a different article, perhaps [[Guide of Homestar Runner characters]] or something like that. If no one disagrees (or does it before I do), then I'll go and do that.

--[[User:Cprompt|cprompt]]

:I don't think it's unwieldy - it's well structured, so easy to follow. But anyway, somebody made [[Homestar Runner characters]], so I'll delete the list from this article (I'd rather they were all in one place, however, personally). --[[User:Camembert|Camembert]]

A doctor who treats Scorpio recognizes him and tells Callahan that Scorpio is the groundskeeper of the stadium across the street and that Scorpio lives there. Callahan breaks into Scorpio's room without a warrant, then chases him onto the field and stops him by shooting him in the leg. He then tortures him by standing on his wounded leg in order to ascertain the ___location of the girl. By the time the police find her, she is already dead and had been raped by Scorpio.

::I've changed my mind and put everything back in this one article (it's now as it was before, but with the "creators" section above the "characters", which makes sense to me). I don't see the benefit of spreading the information over two articles when it can be well presented (as it is) in one. --[[User:Camembert|Camembert]]

Scorpio is released without charge because Callahan broke into his home illegally and tortured him to obtain the evidence.

:::Well, there is a lot of them, and the article was seeming to be more about the quirks of various characters than about the site. Other articles don't have this, including [[Futurama_(animated_series)]], [[The Simpsons]], and [[South_Park]]. The article does benefit from better organization since you moved the "Creators" section, but I still feel that a paragraph about each character is excessive on the [[Homestar Runner]] page. I'll leave it alone for now, but if the character list continues to grow, I may be compelled to create a [[Homestar Runner characters]] page.

After his release, Scorpio pays a thug to beat him up and blames it on Callahan. Scorpio then kidnaps a busload of children and demands another ransom. The mayor insists on paying, but Callahan pursues him on his own and eventually rescues the children and kills Scorpio. The film ends with Callahan removing his Detective's shield and throwing it away in disgust.

:::--[[User:Cprompt|cprompt]]

I think it might be worth considering creating an article specifically devoted to the sub-cartoons portrayed in the SB emails, and splitting off the text currently on this page that deals with these sub-cartoons. There are a lot of small paragraphs on the main HR page, and (though I'm relatively new to looking at that page), I think it might be worth considering making a "List of Cartoons Featured on Homestarr Runner" page, or something to that effect, to un-clutter the main page. Thoughts? --[[User:Rahzel|Rahzel]] 23:35, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Influence and popularity ==

==Bad Link==

Clint Eastwood's iconic portrayal of the blunt, cynical, unorthodox detective who is seemingly in perpetual trouble with his bosses, set the style for a number of his later roles and, indeed, a whole genre of anti-hero films. Harry Callahan is nicknamed "Dirty Harry" due to his propensity for accepting the dirtiest assignments. The box-office success of ''Dirty Harry'' led to the production of four [[sequel]]s. The anti-hero motif was one subsequently imitated by a number of other films.

The Coolest Stuff Ever appears to be down. Remove the link or hope it comes back up? [[User:Kirun|Kirun]] 23:32 17 Jun 2003 (UTC)

:I'm hoping for now. At least we're no more out of date with that link than Google is. It really was a great resource.

:--[[User:Cprompt|cprompt]] 02:24 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)

::It's back up, but I don't see the guide of the Strong Bad emails anywhere. Maybe the site has changed its purpose? I noted it in the article.

::--[[User:Cprompt|cprompt]] 17:24, 16 Aug 2003 (UTC)

== Awesomeness NPOV ==

"Dirty" Harry Callahan also helped popularize [[Smith and Wesson|Smith and Wesson's]] [[S&W Model 29|Model 29]] .44-caliber "[[.44 Magnum|Magnum]]"-series revolver. The film initiated a modest increase in sales of the powerful handgun, which continues to be popular some thirty-five years after the film's release. Throughout the film Eastwood's Model 29 is lionized as an all-powerful instrument capable of sending assailants flying wildly through the air, while in reality the round is far less-dramatic than depicted. The .44 Magnum round is not considered to be a practical caliber for urban police use due to difficulties in recoil (target re-aquisition) and its ability to penatrate multiple surfaces, greatly increasing the likelyhood of bystander injuries.

I may just go crazy if I see another "Homestar was supposed to be awesome, but instead Strong Bad is more awesome" sentence. It's overstated, highly subjective, and really not that important. Homestar is the protagonist, Strong Bad is the more entertaining antagonist. Let it be. Besides, I prefer Homsar, Strong Sad, and the KOT :-P

--[[User:Cprompt|cprompt]]

Technically Strong Bad is an [[antihero]], not an [[antagonist]], but you're right, Homsar is the pwn --[[User:Macarion|Macarion]] 17:15 27 June 2006

[[Image:dhscorpio.gif|frame|Scorpio, the film's antagonist]]Although Callahan is arguably Clint Eastwood's signature role, it is ironic that he was not a top contender for the role. Indeed, the role was originally written for [[Frank Sinatra]], but the singer had broken his wrist some time earlier and found the large handgun too unwieldy and declined the role. Eastwood was only offered the role after [[John Wayne]], [[Steve McQueen]] and [[Paul Newman]] likewise declined the role for varying reasons. As originally written, the story was set in [[Seattle, Washington|Seattle]], [[Washington]]. (Wayne, who turned down the role, later on portrayed a Dirty Harry-like detective in [[McQ]], which was set in Seattle.) One of Eastwood's stipulations for accepting the role was the change of locale to San Francisco, which is his hometown.

== TCYBCBY ==

Scorpio, the film's [[antagonist]], was based on the real-life [[Zodiac Killer]], who was on the loose in [[San Francisco]] at that time. Unfortunately, the Zodiac Killer has never been caught. [[Audie Murphy]] was first approached to play the Scorpio Killer, but he died in a plane crash before his decision on the offer could be made. The part eventually went to the relative unknown, Andrew Robinson. Robinson's portrayal was backstops so chilling that after the film was released he reportedly received several death threats and was forced to get an unlisted telephone number. In real life, Robinson is a pacifist who despises guns. In the early days of principal photography, Robinson would flinch violently every time he fired. Director Don Siegel was forced to shut down production for a time and sent Robinson to a school to learn to fire a gun convincingly. [http://anecdotage.com/index.php?aid=18673] Nonetheless, he still blinks when he shoots.

OK, somebody let me into the secret. Why does the yoghurt place in Teen Girl Squad #2 have "TCYBCBY" written on the roof? [[User:Kirun|Kirun]]

:There is a USA frozen-yogurt chain called "TCBY" for "The Country's Best Yogurt". No idea what the Teen Girl Squad version is supposed to mean, but it's an obvious takeoff. --[[User:Fubar Obfusco|FOo]] 01:08, 17 Sep 2003 (UTC)

[[Alan Spencer]]'s police sitcom [[Sledge Hammer!]] is a satire based on the no-nonsense approach to law enforcement in the ''Dirty Harry'' films. Alan Spencer envisioned a police officer, Inspector Sledge Hammer, whose approach was even more over-the-top, to the point of comical absurdity.

::I think it's just a big exaggeration on TCBY. Many things in Teen Girl Squad are big exaggerations. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 18:33, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)

==See also==

:::ANSWERED!!

* '''Dirty Harry''' was the first in a series of Harry Callahan films, see [[Dirty Harry (series)]].

[[User:Gijake|Gijake]] 01:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Quotes - copyright? ==

==Trivia==

I'm just slightly concerned... Since these quotes appear in Flash animations (and thus pieces of "art" that would be covered by copyright), is it appropriate to place them in Wikipedia or Wikiquote? Has permission been asked? -- [[User:Pipian|Pipian]] 02:44, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)

:I think it's safe to assume that excerpting small pieces of dialog from a cartoon is covered under U.S. "fair use" laws. Quote from Standford Copyright & Fair Use site:

* In the ''Dirty Harry'' video game for the [[Nintendo Entertainment System]], the secret code for infinite lives is "Clyde," a reference to Eastwood's orangutan pal in the films ''[[Every Which Way But Loose]]'' and ''[[Any Which Way You Can]]'' [http://www.the-dirtiest.com/hints.htm].

'''Fair Use is codified in U.S. Copyright law at 17 U.S.C. § 107. It states that the Fair Use of a copyrighted work for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.'''

:--[[User:Cprompt|cprompt]] 14:29, 21 Oct 2003 (UTC)

== Matt B. ==

Removed ''===Matt B.===

Matt B. is a super secret character on Homestarrunner.com, who is very cool and that includes the sunglasses 24/7! there are various links to him showing up in the cartoon! he is a cross between Stinkoman and Homsar, and is best friends with Trogdor the burninator (from a secret link in Strong Bad email "Dragon".) Little more is known on this mysterious character!!!

''

I have doubts this "secret" character exists. Replace if I'm wrong. [[User:Dysprosia|Dysprosia]] 02:02, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)

:Definitely wrong. - [[User:Kookykman|Kookykman]]|<font color="black">[[User talk:Kookykman|(t)]]</font><font color="green">[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|''e'']]</font>

* The virtual band [[Gorillaz]] has two singles named "[[Clint Eastwood (song)|Clint Eastwood]]" in their debut album and another called "[[Dirty Harry (song)|Dirty Harry]]" on their recent album ''[[Demon Days]]''.

This sounds like a bad japanese translation "that includes the sunglasses 24/7?" And Matt B. is definitely not real. Probably some guy just trying to see his edits on the wiki. [[User:Da Huuudge|Da Huuudge]] 15:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

* The final scene, in which Callahan throws his badge in the river, is a homage to a similar scene from [[1952 in film|1952's]] ''[[High Noon (1952 film)|High Noon]]''.

== Everybody to the limit ==

* Eastwood himself directed the jumper scene.

Quote: The second, ostensibly a music video produced by the character The Cheat for Strong Bad's song "Everybody to the Limit", also features this name for humorous effect. '''''The song was recorded by a band called The Skate Party.'''''

I know that The Skate Party did the The Cheat theme song, but did they record "Everybody to the Limit"? I'm thinking they didn't. Anyone know for sure?

* In the 2004 movie, [[Starsky and Hutch]], there is a Dirty Harry poster that is clearly visible in Starsky's bedroom.

:They didn't. At least, if they did, the Brothers Chaps didn't credit them. I've removed that sentence from the article.

:--[[User:Cprompt|cprompt]] 01:12, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

== Dumples ==

* The late [[Albert Popwell]], who appears (as different characters,) in all ''Dirty Harry'' films, with the exception of ''The Dead Pool'' (1988,) appears in ''Dirty Harry'' as the [[African American|black]] bank robber confronted by Callahan who just "gots to know" if Callahan fired six shot or five shots. This famous scene was parodied in an advertisement for the twenty-first annual [[Wrestlemania]], [[World Wrestling Entertainment|World Wrestling Entertainment's]] premier [[pay-per-view]] event. This edition was billed as "Wrestlemania Goes Hollywood" and featured WWE superstars recreating various famous scenes in film history. The ''Dirty Harry'' takeoff featured [[Mark Calaway|Mark "The Undertaker" Calaway]] in the Eastwood role.

I dunno about the bit that says the CGNU mascot is "the dumple". Somebody just changed it to "Dumples", but that's wrong, so I reverted it -- the ''team'' is the Dumples, but the ''mascot'' is the Dumple. Rarely will a team have a group of things acting as a single mascot. For now I'm just leaving it as it was.

--[[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] 08:58, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)

*Eastwood performed the stunt in which he jumps on to the roof of a speeding schoolbus himself, without a stunt double. His face is clearly visible throughout the shot.

Technically, it's The Jolly Dumple. --Anonymous

*Don Siegel told Andy Robinson that he cast him in the role of the Scorpio killer because he wanted someone "with a face like a choirboy."

== The Split ==

*Eastwood has claimed that he took the role of Harry Callahan because of the character's obsessive concern with the victims of violent crime. Eastwood felt that the issue of victims rights was being neglected in the political atmosphere of the time.

I hate to say it, but I liked the monolithic format better. Shouldn't we have discussed it before splitting it back up?

*A section of the Philippine police force ordered a print of the movie for use as a training film.[http://www.clinteastwood.net/filmography/dirty.htm][http://www.the-dirtiest.com/playboy.htm]

--[[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] 14:47, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

*The gun used by Clint Eastwood in the filming of the movie was reportly not a .44 Magnum. According to legend, Smith & Wesson did not have a Model 29 in stock at the time one was requested for filming. Instead, they used a Smith & Wesson Model 57 in .41 Magnum. The Model 29 and Model 57 are identical except for minute differences in bore size, chamber dimensions, and exterior markings, none of which are visible in the film. An actual Model 29 was used for the opening close-up shot in the sequel, [[Magnum Force]].

:Not really required...people should be '''bold''' in editing. We can talk here about merging it all back together. Personally, I think it was a bit excessive. You could write a whole encyclopedia about the Homestar Runner universe! Right now, there is a detailed yet succint article about Homestar Runner, with links to all of the information that once constituted this enormous article. :-) --[[User:Cprompt|cprompt]] 19:39, May 31, 2004 (UTC)

*In [[1972]] soon after the release of the film in Australia, in an apparent copycat crime, two men '''[[Faraday School kidnapping|kidnapped a teacher and six pupils]]''' at gunpoint, and forced them into a red delivery van, demanding a [[Australian dollar|$]]1 million ransom, which the state government agreed to pay. The children escaped with their teacher, the ransom was not paid and the kidnappers were jailed. Coincidentally, one of the kidnappers is named Eastwood. He escaped from prison and again tried kidnapping school children for ransom.

::Of course you should "be bold", but my understanding is that something really major like splitting up a page usually warrants (fairly recent) discussion first. Nobody wants to go through the pain of splitting something up just to have to go through the pain of patching it back together, right? Though I'm not really complaining...I just had a lot easier time editing it in the monolithic format (you'll note I haven't made any edits here in a long time). --[[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] 13:44, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

==Quotes==

*'''Harry Callahan''': Well, when an adult male is chasing a female with intent to commit rape, I shoot the bastard. That's my policy.

*'''The Mayor''': Intent? How did you establish that?

*'''Harry Callahan''': When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard-on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross! [walks out of the room]

*'''The Mayor''': He's got a point.

:::Speaking of an encyclopedia on Homestar Runner...<nowiki>http://www.hrwiki.org</nowiki> (Tah-da!) - [[User:Kookykman|Kookykman]]|<font color="black">[[User talk:Kookykman|(t)]]</font><font color="green">[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|''e'']]</font>

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* '''Harry Callahan''' - "I know what you're thinking: 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But being this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?"

== mostly? ==

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The first paragraph of the entry says that H*R is "available mostly through HomestarRunner.com". Is this a typo, or is it actually available elsewhere?

*'''The Mayor''': Well, lets have it.

*'''Harry Callahan''': Have what?

*'''The Mayor''': A report. What have you been doing?

*'''Harry Callahan''': Well for the past three quarters of an hour, I have been sitting on my ass in your outer office, waiting on you.

[[User:SilentT|SilentT]]

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:There is an Easter Egg in Macromedia Central where Homestar and Strong Bad make an appearance, so it's not a typo. However, I can't seem to think of anywhere else, save for the occasional reference here and there. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] 22:45, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

*'''Harry Callahan''': Well I'm all broken up over that man's rights. [Referring to the illegal search and torture]

::There are also some cartoons on the Strong Bad Email DVD that are not available on the site, so the phrase "available mostly through HomestarRunner.com" is correct. --[[User:Mr. Strong Bad|Mr. Strong Bad]] 20:24, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

==External links==

:A few fansites got some stuff. [[User:Pampas Cat|Teh Pampas Cat]] 18:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

*{{imdb title|id=0066999|title=Dirty Harry}}

*{{rotten-tomatoes|id=dirty_harry|title=Dirty Harry}}

*[http://www.the-dirtiest.com Harry Callahan fan site]

Image is missing -Psychodonovan

{{Dirty Harry movies}}

== HSR for the Atari 2600? ==

[[Category:1971 films]]

[[Category:Action films]]

[[Category:Crime films]]

[[Category:Thriller films]]

[[Category:Warner Bros. films]]

[[Category:Dirty Harry]]

I believe this project <nowiki>http://qotile.net/rpg.html</nowiki> should be mentioned.

[[de:Dirty Harry]]

[[es:Dirty Harry]]

:That sort of information is unnecessary. Homestar Runner Wiki even has it's own site!! A lot more info is there, so what's the point of adding LITTLE info to it. Not much, so, for now, leave it be.

[[fr:L'Inspecteur Harry]]

[[User:LordMooCow|LordMooCow]] 12:37, 3 July 2005 (GMT+10)

[[he:הארי המזוהם]]

[[ja:ダーティハリー]]

what channel can I watch homestar runner? or how can I watch it on the internet

[[pl:Brudny Harry]]

[[ru:Грязный Гарри (фильм)]]

:It's a Flash animation. If you have [[Macromedia Flash]] installed on your Web browser (I recommend Mozilla Firefox) then you will see it when you go to <nowiki>http://www.homestarrunner.com/</nowiki>

[[fi:Likainen Harry]]

== Protagonist/Antagonist ==

:There seems to be much talk here about the roles of the characters as protagonist or antagonist. These terms are not labels of good guy/ bad guy and cannot be applied to the site (H*R) as a whole. The protagonist of a story is the character to whom the plot struggle is presented. The antagonist is the character who presents the struggle; as such, not all stories have an antagonist. The term protagonist is often used to mean "Good Guy." A better term would be "Main Character." Sometimes the protagonist is the villain.

:In the context of Homestarrunner.com, it is impossible to simply say that one character is the protagonist and one the antagonist; the site consists of dozens of different stories which do not fit into a continuous plotline. I suppose one could label Homestar the Hero and Strongbad the Villain or Antihero. I really am not sure which term would better decribe Strongbad.

:Ultimately, all the comments I've written above amount to pretty much nothing for two reasons. First, the site completely defies the common conventions of literature. Whoever described it as absurdist was dead on. Secondly, it's freakin' hillarious and no amount of analysis will do anything to make it funnier. I greatly appreciate this wiki entry and the HR wiki as well, but don't bother breaking it all down. Just enjoy it. Because, after all, "I was raised by a coffe cup."--[[User:PvtDeth|PvtDeth]] 19:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

== [[Fictional fictional character]]s ==

Can't find a good place for this, but I think that the subcartoons are really fictional characters inside of a fictional world. Where should this go? [[User:Fitch|Fitch]]

== Kids ==

the series is most popular with (and has been gravitating toward) college students and young adults.

Does that mean children don't like Homestar Runner?

[[User:Pece Kocovski|Pece Kocovski]] 02:29, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm a 9 year old girl and I LOVE it.[[User:Princess Homestar|Princess Homestar]]

It doesn't mean that children 'don't like' Homestar, it means that the site is most popular with people who are around 18 - 24ish, college age. The numerous '80's/90's pop culture references are a good example of how the site plays to that audience, as someone who is pre-teen would probably be too young to understand most of these references.

In fact, I would like to qoute Mike Chapman: "[The site] is aimed at twenty-somethings and college type kids but can be enjoyed by little tykes as well." ^{(Taken from <nowiki>http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/l33t_Interview</nowiki> (here)).} --[[User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3|TotalSpaceshipGuy3]] 23:52, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

== List of H*R characters. ==

I want to get input from the Homestar*Runner community on merging the articles into a list. Comments? Objections? Support? - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] [[User talk:A Link to the Past|(talk)]] 22:18, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

*There's already a list elsewhere on Wikipedia, but it would be nice to merge it with this article. [[User:Spartacusprime|Spartacusprime]] 22:43, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

**The List of Homestar Runner characters article is a mess! Strong merge/delete! &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

***Actually, I think it might be easier to direct them to the HRWIKI character list, because the Wikipedia list is a mess, and it would be very difficult and pointless to painstakingly merge everything into this page, especially because the minor characters have needlessly long writeups. [[User:Spartacusprime|Spartacusprime]] 22:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

****I think the best thing to do with the 40-odd Homestar Runner articles out there &mdash; even though it is a very extreme solution &mdash; is to redirect all articles except [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner (character)]], and [[Trogdor]] to [[Homestar Runner]]. Then, this article needs a severe rewrite. The article can link to the more complete and better maintained HRWiki, where there is more nitpicky information than Wikipedia would care to have. If I had enough motivation, I would have advertised and enacted this solution long ago, but it's a lot of work. Maybe during winter break... &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== Nickelodeon and Homestar Runner? ==

Oh, no! Is the note regarding Nickelodeon true on [[Trogdor]]'s page true? If it is, that could only mean that Homestar Runner is going to be a Nicktoon. If it were similar to the classic SpongeBob episodes, that would be great! But if it were anything like The Fairly OddParents!, it would be enough to drive me out of my skin.

:During a Nickelodeon commercial, Wanda of the Fairly Odd Parents hits the orange Nickelodeon bubble, and it explodes, releasing tons of things everywhere, including Trogdor, Homestar Runner, Marzipan, the Sneak, and Homesar.

And has anyone here heard Things I Like by KJ-52 and Golden Child? KJ-52 says "I like my man SpongeBob and Homestar Runner." He even said that he would like to write an entire Homestar song! That would be cool.

Crapfully yours, Darth Katana X

:Hi! I read this comment and the entry for it on the [[Trogdor]] page and after much thought it seems rather unlikely that such a comment would be true. First, their [[HRWiki:Inkhole_Interview|Inkhole_Interview]] mentions that they're unlikely to sell to Nickelodeon (just search for Nickelodeon). Also, if such bubble released the toons it says it did then it either was a cameo appearance or indeed a preview of what is to come. Just a cameo appearance wouldn't make any sense, so people would generally assume that they'd have a H*R toon in the works. If this was the case, then Nickelodeon would likely not show this if some kind of agreement had been reached with The Chaps. If said agreement exists, then it's ''quite'' likely going to be listed in <nowiki>http://www.imdb.com</nowiki> (imdb) (as ''Planned'' or in ''Pre-production''). If such a listing exists then Matt and Mike chapman would be listed as contributors ''and'' the entry for such a cartoon would also be listed in their <nowiki>http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1480095/</nowiki> (imdb) <nowiki>http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1053635/</nowiki> (entries). I see no such entries, which leads me to strongly beleive that the comment is a hoax and should be removed. So what do you guys think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:57, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

== thoraxcorp ==

what in the world is thoraxcorp, are you guys sure its from the brother chaps? <small>&mdash;''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:Jess523s|Jess523s]] ([[User talk:Jess523s|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Jess523s|contribs]]) 07:20, 24 December 2005.</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned-->

:See [[hrwiki:Thoraxcorp]], particularly the '''Thorax Corporation Sightings''' section where it lists references to Thoraxcorp in Homestar Runner cartoons. -- <span style="border:1px solid #ccc;background:#eee; padding:1px">[[User:Jeffthejiff|<span style="color:#333;font-weight:bold">jeffthejiff</span>]]</span> <span style="font-size:80%;color:#999">([[User_talk:Jeffthejiff|<span style="color:#999;">talk</span>]])</span> 12:13, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

== "'Classic' emails" ==

What exactly constitutes a "classic" email? I wouldnt pick exactly those as being classic ones. Reeks of POV to be honest. Anyone agree that it should be deleted or changed to something else? -- <span style="border:1px solid #ccc;background:#eee; padding:1px">[[User:Jeffthejiff|<span style="color:#333;font-weight:bold">jeffthejiff</span>]]</span> <span style="font-size:80%;color:#999">([[User_talk:Jeffthejiff|<span style="color:#999;">talk</span>]])</span> 20:15, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

*Yeah, I was just about to mention that. I'll start a vote...

Keep (sign in this box)

Get rid of it (ditto)

Goood bye. [[User:Gnome of Fury|Gnome of Fury]] 21:39, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

I suppose some of them are probably fan favorites (POV) that don't belong in the article, but some like the 50th and 100th e-mails and Trogdor e-mails are kind of big things for the toon (50th and 100th being episode milestones and Trogdor being a character that has seen a lot of influence in other mediums of entertainment). I would say others that might fit are the e-mail that introduces Teen Girl Squad and the ones where he either blows up a computer or gains a new one. I say keep it, but change it to lose the POV and make it more like "notable e-mails" or something.

Just my thoughts. [[User:Omex|Omex]], 23 January 2006

== Why Is'nt HSR being updated ==

why has HSR not been uptated for a month!!!

*Yeah, I wonder why too, the Brothers Chaps should have no other life but to entertain us. </sarcasm> [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 15:00, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

**Well, it is their job.. ;) But they've probably just had a christmas break, and might be cookin' up something right now. I'd prefer they took ages to come out with something with their usual top quality than shitty updates every day... -- <span style="border:1px solid #ccc;background:#eee; padding:1px">[[User:Jeffthejiff|<span style="color:#333;font-weight:bold">jeffthejiff</span>]]</span> <span style="font-size:80%;color:#999">([[User_talk:Jeffthejiff|<span style="color:#999;">talk</span>]])</span> 02:38, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

***I'm thinking they'll update tomorrow. I mean, holidays are over, and that's when they usually update (Monday). I'm hoping for a 15-minute toon to kick off 2006, but that's probably not gonna happen. [[User:Gnome of Fury|Gnome of Fury]] 21:39, 8 January 2006 (UTC)Well they do have wives and stuff and maybe they are trying to get kids if you know what i mean(wink wink)

== Matt chapman is pretty hot ==

Who thinks matt chapman is a major hottie?

he is pretty hott, i feel sorry for his bro because he is not smokin hott :(

:Thank you, 71.35.172.216, for that very constructive and helpful comment. [[User:64.111.128.11|64.111.128.11]] 19:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

== Why is HSR so fricken slow! ==

Well its because your coputer is too lazy to load, reset your computer, it should make it work smooth

:No, it's because this was posted a few weeks ago when H*R servers really were slow. Case closed. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:26, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

== Additions ==

I added Podstar to the links, deleted "for kids" from classic emails (I don't see its importance) and added Japanese Cartoon and Virus to classic emails.

:I removed the classic emails section - see above. its hard to pick out what is a "classic" email as its just an opinion. -- <span style="border:1px solid #ccc;background:#eee; padding:1px">[[User:Jeffthejiff|<span style="color:#333;font-weight:bold">jeffth</span>]][[WP:EA|<span style="color:green;font-weight:bold">e</span>]][[User_talk:Jeffthejiff|<span style="color:#333;font-weight:bold; text-decoration:underline">jiff</span>]]</span> 20:05, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad? ==

Umm, I have to disagree. By looking through the [[Homestar Runner Wiki]], which has a great amount of Homestar Runner fans, and rarely saw when Strong Bad was listed as a favorite character. The Strobg Bad ''Emails'' are popular, but, I'm not sure if SB is. Also, I took a poll, found <nowiki>http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Bluebry_muffin/poll</nowiki> (here) at the bottom, and no people chose Strong Bad, however, four people chose [[The Cheat]]. I know it was only out of 9 people, but 4 out of 9? Also, The Cheat was listed as a favorite charactor when I seached the wiki. Thoughts? [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry muffin]] 01:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

:Go ahead and change it. These H*R articles aren't very well-kept here. At least, not at the time being. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

::Strong Bad is my favorite character, but I guess I'm outnumbered...but then again, I like him largely because of the e-mails. It could be that he's the most popular only because of the e-mails, and that otherwise the Cheat is more popular. [[User:Yeltensic42|Yeltensic]][[Special:Emailuser/Yeltensic42|42]] <small>[[User talk:Yeltensic42|don't]] [[Special:Contributions/Yeltensic42|panic]]</small> 09:41, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Your head a splode ==

Okay, the phrase "Your head a splode" redirects here, but there's no comment on it in the article. For the benefit of those of us who are culturally illiterate enough to have never heard of HR, could someone please add a section explaining this phrase (which I keep seeing around Wikipedia)? Thanks! [[User:Angr|Angr]] ([[User talk:Angr|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Angr|contribs]]) 15:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

:Sure! Your answer's coming up. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:01, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

==awards==

In an interview, one of the Chapman bros. mentions that Homestarrunner.com was Shockwave.com's "Site of the Year" once or twice.

Here's the actual quote:

<nowiki>http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2003/08/01/tem_homestar01.html</nowiki>

"Certain bands would link us on their site and we were Shockwave's site of the year a couple of times. Things like that get it into a mainstream Internet audience."

I think this constitutes an award, or citation/honor at least, that might be deserving of a mention on this page.

== External Link ==

FYI, you have a bolded external link in the article for no obvious reason. Good luck, [[User:HighwayCello|H]]<font color="#009933">[[User:HighwayCello/Esperanza|ig]]</font>[[User:HighwayCello|hway]] ^{[[User talk:HighwayCello|Rainbow Sneakers]]} 20:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

== Possibly SATSQ ==

Could strong bad emails be a spinoff, take off, or parody of Mad magazines snappy answers to stupid questions?

Post your thoughts {{unsigned|24.182.200.111}}

*No. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

*Nope. [[User:DLand|DLand]][[User talk:DLand|<font color = "green">^{<small>TALK]]</small>}</font> 04:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== Merger - GA promotion ==

Please do so, since the other article [[FLAGRANT SYSTEM ERROR]] is as good as a substub.

The GA assessment will depend on that for now. [[User:Lincher|Lincher]] 15:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

*Done [[User:Judgesurreal777|Judgesurreal777]] 16:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Please quote this book '''Retro Gaming Hacks''' available at <nowiki>http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0596009178&id=1MAVnMA6xncC&pg=PP1&lpg=PP1&dq=Homestar+Runner&sig=ZM8-EGN6xwF2p_YYM4xa-FL39JM</nowiki> (books.google.com) which has an article dedicated to HR : p. 77. [[User:Lincher|Lincher]] 16:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

GA GRANTED. [[User:Lincher|Lincher]] 17:19, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

== I read that the Homestarrunner crew's father died ==

According to <nowiki>http://digg.com/links/Homestar_Runner_-_Sad_News</nowiki> the H*R crew's father passed away recently. This is really terrible news and explains why the website has not been updated in a while. --[[User:63.135.20.33|63.135.20.33]] 01:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

:So that's it...I was wondering why HSR was so dead. x.x RIP Strongdad :( --[[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 20:45, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

::That was back in April, so it could be something indirectly tied in with his passing, or it could be something different. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:53, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

==Awards section==

It's not neccessary, and the sentence isn't even pertinent to "Awards". I'm cutting it. [[User:Evan1109|Evan1109]]

== Li'l Brudder POV + slur ==

Don't call him disabled! Just say he has one leg. That's the NPOV way to say this. He can make it on his own, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&diff=33631864&oldid=33629267 Jeffthejiff]. How does that make him impaired? He's gonna be a quarterback someday! OK, I fixed it. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 23:38, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== HR Portal? ==

This page is over the reccomended size limit. Some things should probably be split. And in the same vein, why isn't there an HR Portal? Would someone that knows how to set up such things want to set one up? --[[User:WestonWyse|WestonWyse]] 23:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Limoteen? ==

I noticed in the article that the band that keeps showing up in the sbemails is referred to here as "Limozeen". I'm pretty sure that Limozeen is the real-world band, and the actual parody band in the HR universe is actually called Limoteen with a "t", not a "z". Is that right, or am I just being an idiot?

-Zero.exe

:You don't have to be an idiot, but it's not right either. The band is Limozeen. See <nowiki>http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Limozeen.</nowiki> --[[User:Fubar Obfusco|FOo]] 17:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that about half an hour ago when I was watching the original e-mail. My bad.

-Zero.exe

== Something Awful Parody ==

I am removing the link to Something Awful parody. If someone feels it should be on this page, please put a warning on it stating that it contains profanity and offensive situations. My opinion is the link doesn't really contribute to the article.&mdash;[[User:BassBone|<span style="font-family:font; color:#F00;">Ba</span><span style="font-family:font; color:#C00;">ss</span><span style="font-family:font; color:#900;">B</span><span style="font-family:font; color:#600;">o</span><span style="font-family:font; color:#300;">n</span><span style="font-family:font; color:#000;">e</span>]] ([[User talk:Bassbone|<span style="font-family:font; color:#0F0;">my talk</span>]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Bassbone|<span style="font-family:font; color:#0F0;">my contributions</span>]]) 00:42, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== Is it just me... ==

...or does the H*R Wiki feel section out of place? --<tt>[[User talk:Trogga|(]]</tt>[[User:Trogga|trogga]]<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Trogga|)]]</tt> 16:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

:Perhaps. You should comb through the history to see who shortened the external links and how/why it was done that way, then determine from there a better way to do it. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:10, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I dont see what place the hr wiki has in an article about the homestar runner website at all. For all intents and purposes its just a fansite. It should just be an external link.[[User:Greatsaltlake|Greatsaltlake]] 02:40, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

:To me it seems like HRWiki should just have its own article. [[User:Pacaman|Pacaman!]] 03:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

::It was, but it got merged though this [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homestar Runner Wiki (2)|AFD]]. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:26, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

== Wikipedia reference ==

I don't know if this really has a place in the article, but I thought it was worth noting that in the new short "No Hand On Deck!" there is an apparent reference to Wikipedia: "'Kipedia said vulcanized was the way to go." Thought it was interesting. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

It's interesting, but [[Wikipedia:Avoid self-references|avoid self reference]]. [[User:Kariià|Kariià]] <small>[[User talk:Kariià|Deranged Ramblings]]</small> 20:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Why not put it [[Wikipedia in popular culture|here]]? --<tt>[[User talk:Trogga|(]]</tt>[[User:Trogga|trogga]]<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Trogga|)]]</tt> 14:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Kariià: Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. But I needed to hear it from someone else, first. I figure it definitely deserves a place on this talk page, so, there we are. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 22:45, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

== Asplode ==

Why does asplode redirect here? It's become part of the regular lexicon of many a netizen and, if it's down to homestar runner, as the redirect would suggest, it would make a whole load of sense to make some sort of mention of it.--[[User:Shadebug|Shadebug]] 22:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

== Lil' Brudder ==

Lil' Brudder doesn't really belong in the "Other 'sub-cartoons'" section. The other entries there are established series of cartoons, such as Teen Girl Squad and Puppet Stuff, while Lil' Brudder has only appeared once as a drawing in one Strong Bad Email and once as an actual cartoon. [[User:Heimstern|Heimstern Läufer]] 21:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

==Buffy The Vampire Slayer?==

I really don't think the fact that Homestar Runner was referenced on some WB teen show needs to be mentioned in the introductory paragraphs of this article. They don't even really directly reference Homestar Runner on the episode in question, someone says the name "Trogdor," a character from the cartoon, but do not contextualize it, meaning only fans of the cartoon would realize the reference. I also don't think the fact that the National Review, uh, reviewed them needs to be in the intro, even if it is rare for a website to be reviewed in a national publication (even one which has a history of defending segregation, as the National Review does). Being mentioned on Buffy the Vampire Slayer is not the site's crowning achievement, and I actually think being featured on NPR's "All Things Cosidered" is a bit more notable that being mentioned on Buffy or the National Review.

I'll put those 'references in other media' elsewhere in the body of the article, but I'm removing it from the intro.

== "Shameless self promotion of Homestar wiki?"==

Seems that a whole paragraph of the homestar runner entry in wikipedia shouldn't be describing the creation and dealings of the Homestar wiki. This is pure crap. A link would suffice. There are wikis on many subjects now, and I have never seen a paragraph about a wiki in wikipedia. I usually like to let things be taken into consideration on the talk page but this one seems blatent enough that I'm going to nix it and let the writer of the Homestar wiki revert me because he obviously wrote the paragraph in the first place. woot

[[User:166.70.29.194|166.70.29.194]] 00:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

:Let me educate you about [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homestar Runner Wiki (2)|this AFD]]. The result of it was to merge and redirect the Homestar Runner Wiki article into Homestar Runner. This wiki is within the scope of the article because the makers of homestarrunner.com use it often and have even donated to it. When you look at all of the wikis in [[:Category:Online encyclopedias]], [[:Category:MediaWiki websites]], and [[:Category:Wiki communities]], you can see that there is a whole bigger battle to be fought for those who don't like articles or paragraphs about less-important wikis. Please try to be civil next time; if you know that your edit is going to be reverted, don't do it out of spite. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:36, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

== use of "canon" vs "world/universe" ==

This is addressed to phantasy phanatik, as he/she is the person who keeps reverting to "canon". The use of canon in the context you are using it is incorrect. You're using it to refer to the [[Fictional universe]] (in which case "world" and "universe" are legitimate) of homestar runner, which isn't what the word means. [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/canon read a dictionary]. If you were talking about the, say, the "canon" biblical texts, or the "canon" of texts relating to World War Two, that would be correct usage of the word. On a side note, I don't know how a word can be "unauthorized". Who authorizes what words may and may not be used? Is there some arbitrary committee that decides "thou must not useth 'universe' in relation to homestar runner"? Perhaps you could explain that one to me. [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] 13:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

:<small>(From [[User talk:BazookaJoe]])</small>

:<small>Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! I'm sorry that I have been slightly bitter in our Revertfest 2006. Most of your assertions are backed by good reasoning, but please refrain from using the term "universe." I may go back and re-add it to a few sentences for a bit of fun sentence variation, but when it starts looking like Homestar fan theology, it is going too far. What I mean is, Wikipedia needs to be backed by solid facts, and while I am perfectly aware of the context in which "universe" is used in this case, I think it is taking Homestar Runner too far. To describe it as if it were say, ''[[Harry Potter]]'' is unprofessional and looks immature. If you can back it by a statement by [[the Brothers Chaps]] (which, because they are slowly inhaling HRWiki fancruft, I wouldn't be surprised), then I won't have a problem with the term, but even then, we should use it sparingly, even if just to avoid redundancy. May your swords stay pointy, &mdash; '''[[User:Phantasy Phanatik|Phantasy Phanatik]]''' | [[User talk:Phantasy Phanatik|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Phantasy Phanatik|contribs]] 10:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)</small>

:<small>I have changed the article so that the terms "canon," "universe" and "world" are used in balance, and so that use of "universe" and "world" feels lighthearted as opposed to, well, creepy. Hope this is a good compromise. It's better this way, anyway. &mdash; '''[[User:Phantasy Phanatik|Phantasy Phanatik]]''' | [[User talk:Phantasy Phanatik|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Phantasy Phanatik|contribs]] 10:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)</small>

::Once again you continue to ignore that "[[Fictional universe]]" can be used to describe ANY fictional work. Use of this term is comepletely normal, perfectly understood, and in practice everywhere; it certainly does NOT make anything sound creepy or like fan theology! Homestar Runner is no less deserving of its own universe than Harry Potter is. Here's an article from 2002, two years before the Homestar Runner Wiki was even devised, that is some ''third-party verifiability'' that Homestar Runner indeed has its own universe: [http://www.flakmag.com/features/homestar.html]. It's you against the world, Phantasy Phantik. Continue not citing sources to support your case that it's wrong to use "universe" to describe this particular fictional realm. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Thank you for enlightening me. I will wear the title "only man in the world with a brain" with pride. Bitter evil aside, I think using "universe" or "world" every time is redundant, even if you somehow find it correct. I think I made a fine compromise by throwing in both; likewise, with the "universe" terms used sparingly, if you don't think Homestar Runner should be described so idiotically, it is easy to disregard. But it's me against the world, after all. I'm going back to my own world now. &mdash; '''[[User:Phantasy Phanatik|Phantasy Phanatik]]''' | [[User talk:Phantasy Phanatik|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Phantasy Phanatik|contribs]] 01:20, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

...This is [[WP:LAME]] territory here, folks... [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 01:28, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

:LOL. &mdash; '''[[User:Phantasy Phanatik|Phantasy Phanatik]]''' | [[User talk:Phantasy Phanatik|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Phantasy Phanatik|contribs]] 01:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

"Canon" is not the right word in this article (the word "universe" is in the opening sentence of the "[[canon (fiction)]]" article, by the way). The paragraph where I removed the word was talking about the 20X6 era and the old-timey era, which are definitely ''not'' outside the normal H*R canon. If they were outside canon, then, according to the article Katana himself told us to read, they would be non-genuine pieces of the Homestar Runner body of work, which is difficult to reconcile given that they were made by TBC and are on the website itself. "Universe" is a perfectly good word that means "fictional realm". In addition, the body of work is not a "series" per se, so we should avoid that word as well (there are various series within it, but as a whole it is not). Finally, it's sloppy to use the unqualified phrase "Homestar Runner" when referring to the body of work, the universe, the website, or anything besides the character. If you're not talking about the guy with the red star shirt, then you need to clarify it in some way. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It&#39;s dot com]] 13:38, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== HR wiki section. ==

The Picture in the hrwiki section needs to be updated. Can anyone do this please? Thanks.

[[User:88.109.90.214|88.109.90.214]] 21:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)