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==Comment by Dalbury==
What Jimbo had to say on userboxes two years ago, when the Great Userbox War was raging, is preserved [[User talk:Jimbo Wales/Userboxes|here]]. I am very sad to say that his hope that Wikipedians would voluntarily give up their advocacy userboxes has not been fulfilled. I do think his comments are still pertinant. --
''Jimbo's comment:''
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*Just a technicality, ''transclusion'' calls the template code each time the page is edited/saved. ''Substitution'' places the template code itself on the page so that even if someone changes the template itself, the page the template is displayed on won't change. I think you had things somewhat arsey-versey above. :-) And yes, you could do everything a userbox can do with plain text or some other kind of template, userboxes are just a popular package for this.--[[User:Doug|Doug.]]<sup>([[User talk:Doug|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Doug|contribs]])</sup> 16:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
::Except that userboxes encourage labels rather than statements and explanations. I personally find it hard to explain what I believe in six words or less. --
:::That's fine, but [[Dunbar's number]] comes into play at some point in large online communities like this. Bumper-stickers aren't inherently shallow. It's just that if you are stuck in traffic behind a guy with two paragraphs carved into his read-end, you're probably not going to read it or care. At least on wikipedia you can essentially wave the guy over and have a nice long discussion about whatever pithy/concise statement he may have chosen to make. -- [[User:Kendrick7|Kendrick7]]<sup>[[User_talk:Kendrick7|talk]]</sup> 21:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
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**I dunno, I think the reason people use userboxes over plain text is the same reason they should be more regulated than plain text; and it's not just that userboxes are easier to see. People see them as badges of honor, as colorful uniform insignias that announce their rightful membership in something, and to declare their camaraderie with those who share their interests/POVs. Whether you're saying something offensive or not, plain text just can't be compared. <small style="font:bold 10px Arial;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap">[[User:Equazcion|<font color="#000">Equazcion</font>]] [[User talk:equazcion|•''✗'']]/[[Special:Contributions/Equazcion|''C'' •]] ''04:17, 21 Jan 2008 (UTC)''</small>
***Badges of honour? When did they stop being standardised [[bumper sticker]]s? : ) - [[User:Jc37|jc37]] 10:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
***Badges of honor or bumper stickers, userboxes have too often gotten in the way of building an encyclopedia. I understand at least part of what's going on. When I was a new editor, I spent way too much time editing my user page. I rolled some of my own userboxes (this was back before the userbox project existed). I dumped most of those userboxes two years ago (keeping just the project memebership boxes) when I saw that some editors were putting far too much emphasis on their userbox displays, to the detriment of the project. I had hoped that the "German userbox solution" would be an improvement, and it has in part, but there are still editors who want to shove controversy in everyone's face with provocative userboxes. I'm not bothered by an editor's proclamation of belief in the great spaghetti monster; such userboxes may be silly and unproductive, but they can be funny and we do cut established editors some slack. It is the taunting userboxes and the editors who devote more energy to decorating their user pages than they do to contributing to the encyclopedia that are ruining it for everyone. --
****I disagree on that last part. People who are overly focused on their userpages are about as detrimental to the project as people who aren’t involved at all. In other words, they’re harmless. — <em>[[User:NRen2k5|NRen2k5]]</em> 04:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
***(Bumper stickers ''are'' badges of honor.)<small style="font:bold 10px Arial;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap">[[User:Equazcion|<font color="#000">Equazcion</font>]] [[User talk:equazcion|•''✗'']]/[[Special:Contributions/Equazcion|''C'' •]] ''16:38, 21 Jan 2008 (UTC)''</small>
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