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::::I appreciate your looking into that for me. It seems that my suspicions are at least part right. There is a lot more to this than even I realized. Also, I hope you don't look upon this process as one in which those on different sides of this issue are "opponents." This is supposed to be a process in which both sides can find areas where we can agree and come to a final conclusion about the issue. So far, it seems that we all agree that the userbox policies are flawed in some respect and are in conflict with other, related policies. What we must now come to an agreement on is how the policies must be altered or what otherwise should be done with them. Personally, I think it should be kept as simple as possible, applying more of the existing, core policies and guidelines than trying to legislate in minutiae. [[User:LaMenta3|LaMenta3]] ([[User talk:LaMenta3|talk]]) 05:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::::: An opponent is one who opposes. Those who oppose my argument are my opponents. And this is an argument, an argument being a discussion in which the participants disagree. Just because I consider this an argument, complete with opponents as an argument must have by definition, does not mean that I consider this a game or a fight of any kind. If I did then I wouldn't be willing to point out flaws in my own side, as I've just done above :) <small style="font:bold 10px Arial;display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 6px 2px 7px;white-space:nowrap">[[User:Equazcion|<font color="#000">Equazcion</font>]] [[User talk:equazcion|•''✗'']]/[[Special:Contributions/Equazcion|''C'' •]] ''06:04, 21 Jan 2008 (UTC)''</small>
:Well this one's a "good luck" to all interested. (Good luck in finding the many many piles of commentary, across a myriad of talk pages, some almost simultaneously : )
:The discussions concerning userboxes had brought forth many policy proposals, and so on. At the last, one nearly had consensus, but there were concerns of it being too bureaucratic. So several people, on various "sides" of the issue debated it, and I merged the sections agreed upon to WP:UBX. (I seem to recall John Reid, Radiant, and Cyde (and others) were involved in editing/merging as well, but please feel free to double check the edit history.) The rest of the policy never found consensus. Since one of the criteria for ''labelling'' a policy/guideline page as such is the page's general "stability", I waited some time before tagging the page a policy. After I did, upon further thought (in thinking about the MoS, and other such pages), I decided that these were better labelled as guidelines, and probably shouldn't be called "policy" (at least yet), and so I reverted myself, changing them to guidelines.
:If you'd like help tracking down the discussions involved, I'd be happy to help. But reverting the guideline tag due to a lack of information is probably not a good idea, especially in the middle of a discussion/debate, such as this. - [[User:Jc37|jc37]] 10:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
==Comment by [[User:Rudget|Rudget]]==
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