Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hey! Say! JUMP

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Deletion nomination as a non-notable band. Contested speedy, bringing here for further comment. The relevent guideline, WP:MUSIC, especially the relevent section titled "Criteria for musicians and ensembles", has twelve criteria that would allow a band or group to have an article here at wikipedia. This group meets NONE of those criteria. There seems to be a tenuous future release of a single; however there does not appear to be ANY reliable sources around which this article can be built yet. wikipedia is not a crystal ball and this band MAY someday be notable. It is not now, however. Jayron32|talk|contribs 17:28, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Definitely delete for failing WP:CRYSTAL and WP:BAND - similar to other deleted band articles. Shalom Hello 17:33, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disagree, I find 4 points in that criteria that this group meets, including:
    * Has had a charted hit on any national music chart - Hey! Say! was #1 in the Oricon Japan charts
    * Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country - Hey! Say! is certified GOLD by the RIAJ
    * Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a compilation album - Is performing the theme song for Japan's Volleyball World Cup effort, etc.
    * Has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network - Had a whole 40 minute timeslot dedicated to their debut announcement just today, besides another appearance in another music program barely 2 hours later
    P.S. They're also having a debut concert in Tokyo Dome - biggest stadium in Japan. How many groups are notable for that? - Akaru 17:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • All of the above points apply to DIFFERENT groups, namely the groups Hey! Say! and Hey! Say! 7. Notability is not inherited; this new group does not automatically become notable because a precursor band did a theme song to a TV show. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 17:44, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Hey! Say! 7 IS a subgroup within this group now. Hey! Say! is not a group, it is a song by Hey! Say! 7, whose all 5 members are in this group, and even the name Hey! Say! 7 now exist as a subgroup under this main group. Technically, this IS Hey! Say! 7 renamed, and with new members added. Hey! Say! JUMP is also singing the Japan World Cup Volleyball theme song - something of national level. What about that? - Akaru 17:49, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disagree. Criteria No.6: Hey! Say! JUMP has FIVE members who were part of a notable band (Hey! Say! 7) - Kamichan 17:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep While the band may not be entirely notable, the new evidence above points to a strong outcome of keep, which I would endorse wholeheartedly if it were not for some uncertainty around the facts. Liempt 21:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • If you could state more on the "some uncertainty around the facts", I can try and fix it. I'm new to editing Wikipedia and all, and infact, this is the very first article that I started. Please advice. =) Akaru 11:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]