Wikimedia Forum
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The Wikimedia Forum is a central place for questions, announcements and other discussions about the [[<tvar|wmf>Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation</>|Wikimedia Foundation]] and its projects. (For discussion about the Meta wiki, see [[<tvar|meta-babel>Special:MyLanguage/Meta:Babel</>|Meta:Babel]].)
This is not the place to make technical queries regarding the [[<tvar|mediawiki>Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki</>|MediaWiki software]]; please ask such questions at the [[<tvar|mw-support-desk>mw:Project:Support desk</>|MediaWiki support desk]]; technical questions about Wikimedia wikis, however, can be placed on [[<tvar|tech>Special:MyLanguage/Tech</>|Tech]] page.</translate>
New
after some chat on irc the idea came up of starting a central place of discussion here "it could take some load of the lists as well as helping people in navigating meta". best, oscar 10:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- A question: what is the difference of it and Meta:Babel? Also if this page is the discussion aboutt meta, it would be better to go to Meta namespace... --Aphaia 11:00, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- Meta:Babel is about Meta-Wiki, this is about Wikimedia in general, or so I believe. Messedrocker 11:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- It may have a sense to have such a page. However the description on the above says "concerning this metawiki." I feel myself lost. --Aphaia 11:08, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- i do not think it is a duplication, this is about wikimedia in general indeed. Meta:Babel "is Meta's general and policy discussion page". this is supposed to be more informal and with a larger scope at the same time. moving it to the meta: namespace may be a good idea however. feel free to adapt the description :-) oscar 11:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- i changed the description, hoping this eliminates confusion for now? oscar 11:20, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- Meta:Babel is about Meta-Wiki, this is about Wikimedia in general, or so I believe. Messedrocker 11:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- When this would be duplication, the pages will be merged in time I guess :) Please let's get started, and find some cool image for above the page ;-) eiaway 11:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for information. Seems nice to me now ... better + image + multilingualzed description. ... Sausages & beer perhaps? --Aphaia 11:30, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- and sushi, be bold :-) oscar 11:34, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for information. Seems nice to me now ... better + image + multilingualzed description. ... Sausages & beer perhaps? --Aphaia 11:30, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
little bug
the "button-link" above: [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}&action=edit§ion=new}} start a new discussion] leads to the non-existing page Editing Meta:Metapub&action=edit§ion=new instead of adding a new section. can anyone help fixing this? oscar 17:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- Fixed. // [admin] Pathoschild (talk/map) 21:00, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- thx :-) oscar 21:56, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Image:namespace
in a chat this afternoon with jon harald soby, the idea of renaming the namespace Image: to Media: was discussed, since the latter would be a more appropriate name (also audio etc is uploaded), would renaming this namespace be technically and practically feasible at all? oscar 17:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- This is bugzilla:44 (although to 'File' not 'Media'). --pfctdayelise 21:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Wrong namespace
The namespace Meta: where this page resides suggests that it contains only things related to Meta itself. Maybe we should move it to the main namespace? MaxSem 06:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not unhappy with meta namespace (cf. Meta:Babylon) but agree some people would be confused. I don't have a reason to oppose to move it to main namespace. --Aphaia 19:23, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- no objection either way. also, it's where i originally started it, at Metapub. in all the available namespaces ((Main)-Talk-User-User talk-Meta-Meta talk-Image-Image talk-MediaWiki-MediaWiki talk-Template-Template talk-Help-Help talk-Category-Category talk-Hilfe-Hilfe Diskussion-Aide-Discussion Aide-Hjælp-Hjælp diskussion-Helpo-Helpa diskuto-Hjälp-Hjälp diskussion-Ayuda-Ayuda Discusión-Aiuto-Discussioni aiuto-ヘルプ-ヘルプ‐ノート-NL Help-Overleg help-Pomoc-Dyskusja pomocy-Ajuda-Ajuda Discussão-CA Ajuda-CA Ajuda Discussió-Hjelp-Hjelp diskusjon-帮助-帮助 对话-Помощь-Помощь Дискуссия-Pomoč-Pogovor o pomoči) i don't find an alternative; either main- or meta-namespace i would say. oscar 01:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
AntiSpoof problems
Some hours ago I tried to create a user account for myself on wikimania2007.wikimedia.org. But I receveid the message Login error: The name "555" is not allowed to prevent confusing or spoofed usernames: Does not contain any letters. Please choose another name.. I'm a active editor since July 2004 and use the User:555 in lots of wikis since 23 May 2005. Wikipedia have a article devoted to the number 555.
Is really necessary this in AntiSpoof extension? I don't imagine any vandal naming in numbers-only usernames, but something like User:5559854123 is the phone number of the mother of Jimmy is possible using numbers + letters. 555 01:14, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- I guess you're right, it doesn't seem to be necessary to put such a restriction, especially on such a small wiki as that. Maybe you could discuss it with the Wikimania_2007_Staff and see what happens. -Tembelejderha 01:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- An admin can create that name for you, so just tell Littlebtc or Alexsh your email address. Angela 10:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
How to start an ArbCom?
If a language of Wikipedia does not have an ArbCom, what must be done for them to have one? The ArbCom policies I found on en.wikipedia and Meta wikimedia said NOTHING on STARTING an ArbCom. Thanks. (from an anonymous editor. salvaged from meta:metapub)
- Essentially, what you need is community consensus that an ArbCom is needed on your wiki. The power of such a body depends heavily on the fact that it's authority is recognized by the vast majority of users. Without that it simply won't work. So just follow the normal decision making procedures on your wiki (probably a poll, a vote, a request for comments... you should know what to do ;)).
- However, please note that an ArbCom is probably not something you may want on a small or medium-sized wiki. Also, be sure your conflict resolution procedures are set clearly and are followed closely by editors before you set up ArbCom, otherwise each dispute will end up before ArbCom, which is not what you want.
- Good luck. --TOR 02:53, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Mobile Wikipedia
I would love to see a mobile Wikipedia site so I could read instead of playing video games. There have been many times when I would have to wait in line or the like and I wished I could easily access Wikipedia on my Blackberry. Is there anything on the horizon?
- Apparently you can access a 'mobile' version of Wikipedia via mdog. Maybe Eric Zachte's website is also useful to you. pfctdayelise 22:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Wapedia is an extremely useful tool for browsing Wikipedia on mobile devices. Jon Harald Søby 22:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Also this is supposed to be a mobile version of WP that looks good, but I can't get the site to load right now. pfctdayelise 22:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Wapedia is an extremely useful tool for browsing Wikipedia on mobile devices. Jon Harald Søby 22:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Facts & Figures
Wikimedia press releases/Facts & Figures is a central page about Wikimedia and its project, being developed. It will serve current and possible press contact and people who are interested in our project. You are invited to edit the page to add facts and figures of your favorite project :) --Aphaia 21:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Wikiquote-l
Wikiquote now has a mailing list! (It is the last project to receive one! :)) I just got a mailing list (Wikiquote-l) created for the Wikiquote project. You can sign up for it and read the list information at this link. If you would like be a moderator or administrator for the list, contact me (the list owner, I am linked from the bottom of the listinfo page). Unfortunately, I am only willing to make current Wikiquote sysops mods or admins for the list, but everyone else is welcome to subscribe (and please do)! Hopefully, this will be a mailing list for all the Wikiquote projects where we can talk about issues related to us all and ask for help on discussions. Cbrown1023 talk 19:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Revision IDs?
Playing around with URLs has demonstrated to me that every single revision on Wikipedia (and presumably other sites with MediaWIki software) seems to have a unique ID#, apparently irrespective of the name or sorting of the article itself. (Here's a silly example to show how to have fun with this.) I was wondering (a) why it works this way (as opposed to having, say, edit #5 be 005 on every article) and (b) how these numbers are assigned — there doesn't appear to be one for all small numbers in that range, although interestingly, 00000001 is the very first version of w:Wikipedia:Wikipedians, made way back in January 2002. Thanks for any info you can provide… Lenoxus 20:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Interesting, I did not realize you can take the diff between versions of different articles. It seems that the title parameter is only used for the edit link etc.--Patrick 23:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- The reason is so that you can have a permanent link to a revision even if a page is moved and has a new title. It also allows comparing 2 articles if the content was copied and pasted to a new page rather than moving the page. Versions before 2002 were made on a different type of wiki software so they are [not] numbered in the same way. Angela 00:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks; that's about what I figured. Question: what do you mean by "in the same way"? Lenoxus 23:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- That was a typo. I meant they are not are numbered in the same way. So, edit number 1 wasn't actually the first edit ever made to Wikipedia. Angela 02:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- A'ight; do you know what generates the numbers then? Lenoxus 22:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Licensing policy
I've noticed that the resolution regarding the licensing policy has been translated to a couple of languages. Is that work done here or on foundation wiki? I'm asking mainly because a German translation is still missing and I'd be happy to help with that. sebmol ? 05:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Translations are recommended to be done on Translation requests/Licensing policy. Most of translators have made their translations, checked with several eyes and uploaded their version to the foundation wiki. German translators as well other missing language translators will be welcome! --Aphaia 05:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Will do. Thank you for your quick response. sebmol ? 06:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
if & switch
can someone explain me what's really different in those two expressions (see in edit mode), and how is that supposed to work?
first
{{{1}}}Three
second
{{{2}}}Three
Gbnogkfs 29 march 2007, 14:07 (UTC)
- This is a known bug, see ParserFunctions/5678.--Patrick 15:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- I see... (well, brobably I didn't get everything, but that's not the point, as long as I can found workarounds that do effectively work) Is there any possibility these bugs be fixed? Gbnogkfs 30 March 2007, 6:33 (UTC)
- Yes, mediazilla:5678 shows that people are working on it. Anyway, using an undefined parameter without default is not meaningful.--Patrick 12:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Changing the default language in a Wiki
I have been asked at ay:Discussion Utilisateur:ReyBrujo a very interesting (and true) question: since Aymara is mainly spoken in four countries with Spanish as official language, why is ay.wikipedia.org using french as default? Is there any way to change that to Spanish? Thanks for any advice. -- ReyBrujo 06:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- This can be accomplished by bugging the developers. However, you'll need community consensus. MaxSem 15:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Template question
Is it possible to create a template which would display different content linked by name to a certain type of input? To pick a random example, {{Example template|dog}} (or {{Example template|magic input=dog}}) would display a dog-related box, while {{Example template|cat}} (or {{Example template|magic input=dog}}) would display a cat-related box? How complicated would the coding be? Lenoxus 21:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Appendix namespace
At Spanish language Wikipedia, community took a decission to have an appendix (anexo in Spanish) namespace for including contents such as tables and lists that are not encyclopedic articles per se, but that does complement an encyclopedia.
The idea came from a suggestion in the proposal of Wikilists, that instead of a separate project, a new namespace should be used instead. Also, in the original proposal for Portal namespace at German language Wikipedia (see Special namespaces for portals and lists) the idea was that the new namespace would also content lists and related material. Contents in this new namespace would be subject to all Wikipedia policies including free contents, neutral point of view, ban of original research, etc., except that contents would not be articles, so a simple list of links might be appropiate.
Fact is that, after a post in the local pub(here), an informal consultation(here), and a formal poll(here), the community decide to: Adopt a definition of Encyclopedic support contents as official policy(here), and to create a new namespace Anexo (appendix) for placing this kind of content.
Is there any other Wikipedia or another Wikimedia project that would benefit from this new namespace?
— Chlewey 13:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC) PS. Request for the new namespace is reported as Bug 9304, at Bugzilla.