Talk:Community service/Archive 1

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Gothem2233 in topic Community order?
Archive 1

Criticism

Dont pay attention to any of this. Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Im sure that your teacher has told you guys this. so pay attention to them because they know what their talking about students!!!! went and made some changes to the Community Service Article. While the author had done an excellent job describing community service as it pertains to the criminal justice system, I felt that there was more to community service than just that. There were other aspects of community service, such as for use, or when it's given voluntarily instead of just when people are sentenced to do so after being convicted of crimes.


JesseG 22:27, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I can't really think of how to word it properly, but I think it would be good to incorporate the fact that many high school students feel obligated to complete community service to advance their college resume.

Evanbro 21:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Transformative therapy - deleted

Uniform controversy - notable ?

In the UK, there has been some controversy over whether orange overalls (gitmo-style) and hi-viz jackets were valid as part of the punishment, degrading, or just a 'Health and Safety' measure !

In the US, too ?

--195.137.93.171 (talk) 18:07, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Just one photo can ruin your career if the full explanation a of such photo is not presented. A blog entry have photos showing the problem Pas nu på med High School ophold i USA - del II (Please watch out for High School stay in the United States - Part Two).
One of the photos are punishment, one volunteering. Because wearing orange overalls is the most important part of the punishment (inflicting shame), then voluntary work could become punishment. A search conducted by a future employer could find such a photo and then the employer would archive the application without an interview. Just the risk should be enough warning to stay away from community projects. OscarPetterson (talk) 07:26, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Community order?

"Community order" redirects to this article. But what actually is it? The term does not even appear. It's in e.g. this news article. Wammes Waggel (talk) 18:14, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

It's a type of sentence available in the UK as an alternative to imprisonment under the Criminal Justice Act 2003. There are also youth community orders for under 16s. See this gov.uk article for an overview. Essentially a community order is a set of requirements (from a list of 12 permitted) imposed on an offender in an effort to a) punish them and b) rehabilitate them in order to reduce the likelihood of re-offending. Community orders often, but not necessarily, include compulsory unpaid work (I think this is the legal term), which is really the subject of this article. For example someone convicted of possessing illegal drugs might be required to submit to regular drugs testing; someone convicted of assault may be required to attend an anger management course; someone with mental health issues may (with their consent) be referred to mental health services and required to attend. Regular meetings with a probation officer for some period from 6 months to 3 years (called supervision) are a common requirement. They can also impose certain lifestyle restrictions, but unlike the notorious ASBO there is a fixed list of restrictions that may be imposed. Colloquially in the UK "community service" means unpaid work as one of the conditions of a community order; "community payback" seems to be a PR brand for such work. More info can be found at Sixth Form Law, a resource for A-level law students. Hairy Dude (talk) 17:52, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
This topic really deserves its own article, so I've requested one at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Applied arts and sciences/Law#Concepts. Hairy Dude (talk) 20:20, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Gothem2233 (talk) 23:03, 3 November 2022 (UTC)I wanted to add on to the "Court Ordered Service" Section. I want to further explain what time of typical crimes defendants commit to receive Community service (I.e minor property crimes). Additionally, I would explain the consequences for failing to complete the ordered Community service (I.e Incarceration). Would this be acceptable for this section, or would it be unnecessary? Please give me your feedback.

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Lo 41.150.212.102 (talk) 18:34, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Sceptics of community service

Can't we include the dissenting opinions of whether community service is actually meritorious? Such as the views of Ayn Rand and many others?

Yes, providing the are from reliable sources and do not give undue weight. Si Trew (talk) 21:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)