Talk:Gisella Perl

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Never seems to be any proof or scientific foundation

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Why is it that there never seems to be any documentation of any of these evil Nazi medical experiments. The article states that she did an operation on a woman's breast without any anesthetic? What kind of "operation"

In another article, it claims that she performed abortions at Auschwitz because Dr. Mengele wanted to do "experiments" on pregnant women. And once again, no proof. It is claimed that she did abortions with her "bare hands"? Um, did she literally reach up into the woman's vagina and pull out the fetus not using anything sterile and without using any anesthesia?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 55.128.28.90 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 15 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

I can't answer most of your question, because I'm not a historian I can only provide information of the obvious kind. Concentration camp procedures, especially the nasty ones, weren't recorded for this specific reason. To sow doubt, because they knew they were doing awful things. Also many records were destroyed. I don't know about the "bare hands" bit, but that is weird haha T4mporary (talk) 05:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Wiki Education assignment: Women and Medicine

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No evidence of "Olga Sulima"?

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Hello everyone, I removed the anecdote about "Olga Sulima" because she does not exist in any other source besides Braxton's. While a survivor named Olga Sulima does exist, I cannot find a testimony from her anywhere, or even evidence that an inmate doctor with that name even existed. Additionally, the quote from "Olga Sulima" is nearly identical to Gisella Perl's account of the event in her book. The wording is the exact same at times.

Braxton's source was already incredibly flawed, and lists no exact source information for his quotes.

For example, at one point in the book, he names a 19 year old Polish girl named Dora Szafranski who "testified" that Irma Grese and Dr. Mengele forced her to perform sexual acts with an animal. A survivor named "Dora Szafranski" does not exist, however, a 22 year old "Dora Szafran" from Poland did survive Auschwitz, and testified at the Belsen trials. In her deposition she does not mention anything about being forced to commit acts of bestiality. It is clear that Braxton was either wildly misinformed, or he enjoyed inventing pornographic scenarios about Holocaust survivors. Onlykatze (talk) 19:56, 15 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Onlykatze, I've reviewed the sources and checked Braxton's book. I support removing. I don't really think Braxton's brief mention of Gisella Perl's testimony is noteworthy enough for inclusion. It's a very early source and there are newer ones examining her story. As you note, there are clearly some problems with Braxton's book. Zenomonoz (talk) 22:25, 15 June 2025 (UTC)Reply