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Hi, Cyclopia. It's probably best to avoid describing AfD nominations as "nonsensical" [1], as it sounds a lot like a personal attack on the nominator. I think it's better just to say something like the nomination doesn't seem to be based on any policy. Dricherby (talk) 14:53, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Oh right. Apologies, thanks for letting me notice. --Cyclopiatalk 14:59, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
No worries! Dricherby (talk) 19:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Following last week's op-ed by Gigs ("The Tragedy of Wikipedia's Commons"), the Signpost is carrying two contrary opinions from MichaelMaggs, a bureaucrat on Wikimedia Commons, and Mattbuck, a British Commons administrator.
The season finale of Game of Thrones ensured that the epic high fantasy series would dominate the top 10 again last week; however, it was joined by Maurice Sendak and Man of Steel.
Memeburn.com published an article on the yearning of students in South Africa for free knowledge through Wikipedia Zero.
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With erysichton elaborata, the Swedish Wikipedia passed the one million article Rubicon this week. While this is a mostly symbolic achievement, serving as a convenient benchmark with which to gain publicity and attention in an increasingly statistical world, the particular method by which the Swedish site has passed the mark has garnered significant attention—and controversy.
Eleven articles, twelve lists, and eleven pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia this week.
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The WMF's engineering report for May was published recently on the Wikimedia blog and on the MediaWiki wiki ("friendly" summary version), giving an overview of all Foundation-sponsored technical operations in that month.
Richard Farmbrough was set to have his day in court, but as events transpired, this was not to be so. On 25 March 2013, an accusation was made against Farmbrough at Arbitration Enforcement (AE), claiming that he violated the terms of an automated edit restriction. Within hours, Farmbrough had filed his own request with the arbitration committee, citing the newly filed AE request and claiming that the motion was being used "in an absurd way" in the filing of enforcement requests: "I have not made any edits that a sane person would consider automation."

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Nice work on re-purposing Timeline of food and thanks for the work you put into it. Also, I've added some images to the article. Cheers! Northamerica1000(talk) 01:30, 21 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
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With most TV shows on hiatus for the summer, attention has turned to movies, celebrity and sports. The dramatic events at the 2013 Confederations Cup drew massive attention, as did summer blockbusters like Man of Steel and World War Z. But the most searched event of the week was the tragic and unexpected death of popular actor James Gandolfini on June 19.
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Amy Chozick's profile of Jimmy Wales in the New York Times sparked significant controversy in international news outlets this week. Chozick's profile covered Wales's personal life, including his 12-year-old daughter, ex-wife, and current wife Kate Garvey, describing Wales himself as "a well-groomed version of a person who has been slumped over a computer drinking Yoo-hoo for hours." Chozick described his current role in Wikipedia as "Benevolent Dictator for Life", a statement which garnered conflict from all corners of the web, including from Wales, who responded to the piece as a whole with a lengthy talk page statement.
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The VisualEditor extension has gone live by default to registered users on the English Wikipedia, marking a huge milestone in a project that has taken the best part of a decade to reach fruition. The extension was previously described as "the biggest and most important change to our user experience we’ve ever undertaken" by the WMF team behind it.
The real world made a strong showing in the top 10 last week, as news stories such as Yahoo!'s purchase of Tumblr, the murder of Odin Lloyd, the continuing drama over NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and the ill-health of Nelson Mandela crowded out the usual roster of TV shows, movies, websites and video games. Not that they were entirely excluded, of course.
Following a one-month period of moderated discussion, Tea Party movement has been reopened by the Committee. The proposed decisions are currently being voted upon. Race and politics remains suspended pending the return of User:Apostle12.

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You might consider moving your !vote up to the voting section. It may not be noticed where you put it. Good luck. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 10:50, 5 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Right, I was in a hurry and didn't notice. Thanks. --Cyclopiatalk 11:54, 5 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

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  An article that you have been involved in editing, Timeline of Sun Myung Moon, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Steve Dufour (talk) 15:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC) Steve Dufour (talk) 15:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Actually, if you'd looked more carefully, you'd have seen that what you call "nonsense" is actually the personal recollections of a 63-year-old army veteran with a poor grasp of English who doesn't know how to edit Wikipedia very well.

It wasn't suitable for the article (and the editor is long gone), but please spend a little more time investigating when you see stuff like this. Somebody might need help. Thanks. — Scott • talk 22:44, 7 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your heads up (It doesn't make it any less nonsense in the article context, but I agree I could have been more sensitive in my wording). -- cyclopiaspeak! 10:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
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There's a difference between my edits and Dream Focus' edits. Dream Focus posted to ARS. I didn't post to any noticeboards or talk pages. Places DF's canvassed: 1. Places I've canvassed: 0. I don't understand why you, DF and Warden are so defensive whenever I nominate something for deletion and/or express displeasure at the ARS pbp 15:04, 11 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

The point is that posting to ARS is no more canvassing than posting to AFD: people with your wiki-philosophies have it in their watchlist, after all. I am not defensive when you nominate something for deletion: heck, I even agreed with the !delete in the case in point. The problem with the ARS instead is that you are entitled to dislike the ARS, but you are not entitled to relentlessly accuse a wikiproject of canvassing or questioning its legitimacy without evidence and/or consensus -that is highly disruptive and just creates drama. The ARS is an open, legitimate (as per consensus) wikiproject. If you disagree with its aims or perceived "agenda", just put it in your watchlist and follow the AfD's therein listed, as no doubt you already do. Easy peasy. -- cyclopiaspeak! 15:11, 11 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Just because a months-old discussion had 51% of people saying that the ARS could continue doesn't mean that you are immune to future accusations of canvassing. Nearly every article nominated for rescue gets a Keep from Dream Focus and a Keep from Warden; this was no exception. In many cases, those two vote Keep without editing the article, or certainly improving it, and often they vote Keep without citing a relevant policy or guideline. Honest politicians is an exception to that because Warden created the article to prove a POINT about American public officials convicted of crimes, an AfD closed with the rationale "No policy based keep !votes" when the two people voting Keep where Dream Focus and Warden, who rather than cite any policies or guidelines, accused the nominator of bad faith. These two AfDs are textbook examples of the ARS just coming out to !vote without any real policy or guidelines to back them up. Another thing they are an example of is Warden's continual need to berate me or any other person who votes Delete. The fact that Warden and DF are so hostile to people who vote delete has resulted in me disliking ARS and all it stands for pbp 15:38, 11 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
  • "doesn't mean that you are immune to future accusations of canvassing." Every editor and wikiproject oughts to be immune to unfounded accusations. Do you have proof for that? If so, AN/I is that-a-way.
  • "Nearly every article nominated for rescue gets a Keep from Dream Focus and a Keep from Warden" - So do many articles not listed at ARS. So what? You just found out DF and CW are inclusionists (and I am too, btw, even if perhaps slightly less). What a resounding discovery. But this is no proof of canvassing at all: it is just proof that two ARS-active editors happen also to have a certain philosophy in the wiki. Canvassing would be if someone went calling them and only them on their talk pages, or if the ARS was a secret or near-secret page no deletionist editor is aware of.
  • "In many cases, those two vote Keep without editing the article, or certainly improving it" - So what? I am not a great fan of WP:HEY either, our policies demand us to evaluate the article subject, not its current state, to judge for its suitability, per WP:ATD. Sometimes I did such improvements, sometimes I don't. It depends on the case.
  • "These two AfDs are textbook examples of the ARS just coming out to !vote without any real policy or guidelines to back them up."' - If you have problems with these two editors, stick to that, and don't put the whole ARS in.
  • "Warden's continual need to berate me or any other person who votes Delete." - Sorry but that's hypocrisy at its best. You accuse a wikiproject of canvassing without proof. You accuse editors of having been canvassed without proof. You disregard the consensus that legitimates a wikiproject. You go harassing these editors on their talk pages, over and over, accusing them of wikihounding and what else, and then you whine because they politely argue with you on AFD debates? Grow up. -- cyclopiaspeak! 17:05, 11 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

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The case Kiefer.Wolfowitz and Ironholds was opened. Voting on the Tea Party movement case continued, after a failed attempt at moderated discussion. A group tasked with deciding the content of the lead section of the Jerusalem article has reported back to the committee. Applications for checkuser and oversight permissions close on 22 July.

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for your help, but could you remove that word "drama"? It's not helpful and it's meaning is unclear. Chrisrus (talk) 22:49, 28 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

It has a very clear meaning and it well describes the situation, IMHO. -- cyclopiaspeak! 11:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
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One of the narratives I've heard a lot is that Wikipedia is unable to change, that it's too stagnant, too poorly resourced, too inherently resistant to change. I don't believe that at all.
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Ahaha unfortunately I haven't met anyone from Bologna in En Wikipedia. You are the first one! -- Nick.mon (talk) 17:27, 7 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

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I don't think our paths have crossed before, but I wanted to take this opportunity to applaud you for your well-phrased comments regarding the reuse of our content. If only more editors had your understanding. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:35, 7 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Hi, could you go back to [2] and clarify how you feel about the other options? Thanks, Hobit (talk) 19:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Your edits at List of cruelty to animal incidents in Canada. It is against the rules at Wikipedia to alter an article when it is being discussed for deletion. In addition, vandalism is not condoned. IQ125 (talk) 15:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Oops. Slight lack of clue, I think. Cyclopia, you have my sympathies... AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:30, 24 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'll help you keep the defamatory statements you deleted out of the article pbp 15:40, 24 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
Well, if I get support from both AndyTheGrump and PBP, I must be doing something right  . Sorry User:IQ125, not only it is absolutely permitted to edit an article when it is at AFD, it is even encouraged (see WP:HEY). Also, there is no vandalism at all there: just removal of information which is not relevant in the article and probably not WP:BLP-compliant. --cyclopiaspeak! 15:52, 24 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Oh dear... sorry! I will try to space my edits out, but fixing that next poorly worded sentence is so tempting that I can hardly restrain myself. I agree that my whole-article edits really aren't minor, so OK, I'll leave that box unmarked.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murder of Andre Marshall

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I understand we are at the opposite ends of our notability views in this project, but please the next time you participate in an AFD, look at the sources before you decide to comment. I personally feel those nominations are very WP:POINTY themselves, nominating a bunch of Murder of X articles in a short period of time, but the Marshall article was a complete hoax. None of those sources ever existed and Google show only Wikipedia mirrors. I left a screenshot of the article prior to deletion at Wikipediocracy for you and others to see. Just a reminder so you don't have to look like a fool the next time you comment in AFD. Thanks Secret account 02:54, 26 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Oops. Thanks a lot. It seems to me they were written down as offline sources, which I couldn't check, however I didn't think of counter-checking them online. Lesson learned in assuming too much good faith. You're free to laugh at me as much as you want there at WO, guess I deserve it :) --cyclopiaspeak! 07:29, 26 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

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you might want to reconsider that not every murder is notable or meets WP:PERSISTENT. LibStar (talk) 02:04, 28 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

I never maintained that every murder is notable. But murders that are notable per WP:GNG and generate persistent coverage should be kept. Your argument in the nomination that "GNG does not apply to murders" is completely unfounded -and in fact most of the other "Death of..." and "Murder of..." articles we opined recently closed as keep. All delete arguments in that AfD ignored notability guidelines in letter and spirit, and were basically WP:IDONTLIKEIT. I will not challenge it under DRV because consensus was what it was, but it has not been an AfD to be proud of. Also, while I understand you are in perfectly honest good faith, I am of the opinion that many of your AfD nominations are a serious harm to the project. I ask you instead to reconsider your ongoing efforts at AfD asking yourself what is the real advantage such deletions of these articles give to our readers. --cyclopiaspeak! 18:07, 28 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
we use consensus. I'm sure you believe almost every article up for deletion should be kept. That Is simply not the case. We should not keep articles for WP:NOHARM to readers. I will continue to nominate articles for deletion. If articles are notable they will survive AfDs. Kind regards. LibStar (talk) 22:45, 28 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'm sure you believe almost every article up for deletion should be kept. - I'm sure you think using a lot of very wrong assumptions, and this is one of them. There is lots of stuff that I maintain can be safely deleted: original research topics, duplicates, hoaxes, unverifiable articles, unnotable living people, etc. Another of your misguided assumptions is that I justify my keeping with the argument that such articles are simply harmless. Instead, they are verifiable, reasonable, informative, encyclopedic articles: but people like you, again, erroneusly assume that since you don't find the topic interesting, then nobody oughts to know about it. We are here for the readers' service, but many editors seem to forget it altogether. In fact, you carefully avoided to answer: what is the advantage to our readers in deleting such articles? Curiously enough, when I ask this question, almost nobody ever answers. --cyclopiaspeak! 09:38, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

WP is not a repository of every single verifiable topic, nor have ever ever I said not interesting is a reason for deletion. Well established consensus of notability exists of many topics, you seem to think topics must be kept because there is a disadvantage to readers if they are deleted. That is not a reason for keep and would hardly pass in an AfD. Perhaps you could set up your own online encyclopedia where the bar for notability suits you. LibStar (talk) 11:12, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

  • WP is not a repository of every single verifiable topic - I know. Thanks for adding another straw man to the collection.
  • you seem to think topics must be kept because there is a disadvantage to readers if they are deleted. - That's the whole point of an online encyclopedia: being of help to readers. Otherwise it's just collective masturbation. Do you contribute to Wikipedia to actually help people who use it, or just because you are bored? That such an argument would hardly pass in an AfD means only how broken is the project.
  • Perhaps you could set up your own online encyclopedia where the bar for notability suits you. - This one suits me just fine, thanks. The notability bar as written in guidelines is, with some minor exceptions, quite fine: it is the way it is interpreted at times that is damaging. I don't feel comfortable leaving WP in the hands of editors that (as you admit above) explicitly ignore the impact of their decisions on who actually uses this encyclopedia. The more people like you come here to bully me asking me to "reconsider", the more I am convinced there is people who wants this project helpful for people, and who just uses it as a platform for their own egos. --cyclopiaspeak! 11:36, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Hi. As a contributor to the AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greg Retallack on Greg Retallack I let you know that there is a debate going on the article's talk page Talk:Gregory Retallack about how to implement the findings of the AfD . Xxanthippe (talk) 00:13, 26 September 2013 (UTC).Reply

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Greetings. Because you participated in the August 2013 move request regarding this subject, you may be interested in participating in the current discussion. This notice is provided pursuant to Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:27, 4 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Why is it OK for one user to label people they disagree with, cast unevidenced aspersions and act as if raising concerns about unsourceable BLPs are a crime but when another user calls them out on it they are a bully? Not very even handed was it? Spartaz Humbug! 09:42, 7 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

I see no aspersions there, only reasonable concerns about the behaviour of certain editors. I have little interest in discussing PORNBIO itself because of similar concerns -it is a toxic issue. However I do not tolerate editors be told to go off wiki to discuss their opinions. --cyclopiaspeak! 10:07, 7 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
You have two options on wiki, accept consensus or find another site whose consensus you can accept. Its not bullying to point this out. As for your tolerance of attacks on myself and other users - well I'm sure you don't give two figs about whether or not I have a good opinion about you. Spartaz Humbug! 13:06, 7 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
You have two options on wiki, accept consensus or find another site whose consensus you can accept - No, you have a third, as in any other reasonably free society: argue your own position and hope to change consensus -if not today, one day. Minority positions have a full right to be voiced and represented. To intimidate editors who express non-mainstream positions is bullying. I don't fully understand what you mean by "attacks on myself and other users", but yes, I care little about your opinion of myself. I care more of the fact that consensus does not mean that alternative positions must be silenced. --cyclopiaspeak! 13:18, 7 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

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secrets of nature
Thank you, editor interested in "political uncorrectness" and "deep secrets of nature", for quality articles such as Andiva and Life on Another Planet, for saving articles from deletion by improving them, for insight on consensus and bias, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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In all honesty, I do not care too much. I strongly disagree with the assessment, and I understand the no paper stuff. The way I read all the guidelines, it is as cut and dry as possible that it does not belong, but if the community disagrees, so be it. This is not something important enough really, and I am not sure why I am even arguing about it. From An American Jew.Sposer (talk) 17:33, 16 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

I think that's the right attitude. My philosophy, which of course can be and is actually disagreed by many, is that once we we meet the spirit of notability, that is, when we have the technical conditions to have a meaningful article, we should have it, even if the topic is silly, obscure or bizarre. We're here to cater all kinds of readers, and what is trivial for us may be very important for others, in ways we cannot necessarily fathom now. Thanks for your input anyway   --cyclopiaspeak! 17:42, 16 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

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I invite Glc72 to stop posting on my talk page.

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My english would be very good but many times i write in a hurry.I contributed now and in the past to many articles.Italy presentation in Italy article must be ADEQUATE with the Symbols and its prestige.Italy first of all is 9th in the world as nominal GDP ( i noticed that Wikipedia editors give much more importance to GDP than net wealth.Huge mistake,it's net wealth that moves world.I never saw a serious article in Wikipedia based on "Net national wealth" that could be based on Credit Suisse Global Wealth Report Databook).Italy is member of the G7 that isn't cited in the presentation and has much more prestige than the G8.Italy was reported as a MAIN MIDDLE POWER that somebody deleted even with the block.The article presentation was changed several times in the last times and this isn't serious with the Italian Symbols aside. (Flag,Emblem,President).This isn't a common article with these Symbols aside.Now i've been very clear.So in the main Italy presentation must be done at least these 3 changes,please.I already warned not officially authorities of it.NOW MY IMPRESSIONS) In my opinion there are many secret services active in many articles above all in history,military and policy to well present what they care (propaganda) .I doubt a lot of broad consensus criteria and not only.In "Superpower" article for istance to change it takes the broad consensus of many people from all over the world.It's easy to find it for a secret service by embassies.I'd like to be friend with you and to have your suggests).I live in Citta' di Castello,and you?).ThanksGlc72 (talk) 14:47, 20 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Ooookay. Having seen this message and reviewed your contributions, I guess I don't need anything else. --cyclopiaspeak! 16:02, 20 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

I can't see the 3 changes in Italy article.You didn't change anything.Ooookey for what?You did nothing. Glc72 (talk) 16:15, 20 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

And I don't want to. If you want to fight your wacky battle, do it yourself. Please do not post on my talk page anymore. Thanks. --cyclopiaspeak! 16:31, 20 October 2013 (UTC)Reply


Sorry explain me better that "wacky".Offending isn't allowed neither by Wikipedia neither by italian law.I want to realize its sense.Glc72 (talk) 16:34, 20 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

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[3] --NeilN talk to me 23:12, 20 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

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You have reinserted [4] content that is in violation of the WP:OR policy. You are WP:SYN inserting a report about common deaths that makes no mention of unusual deaths into a article in which the context is comparing the common deaths of the source to uncommon deaths, an analysis that is NOT in the source. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:07, 30 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Your interpretation of OR is laughable. There is nothing OR in reporting context, nor there is any synthesis -no conclusion is put forward. Go harass someone else. --cyclopiaspeak! 13:25, 30 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Its right there in print [[WP:STICKTOSOURCE|"Surce material should be carefully summarized or rephrased without changing its meaning or implication. Take care not to go beyond what is expressed in the sources, or to use them in ways inconsistent with the intention of the source, such as using material out of context." The WHO is SOLELY talking about common sources of death and to use that to make a comparison to unusual deaths is about as out of context as one could get. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:12, 30 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
There is no comparison, no change of meaning or implication, nor any usage inconsistent with the intention of the source. Also the "out of context" issue is about taking a sentence out of context to imply a meaning not intended by the source. In the article, the picture/caption is a nice reminder of "Well, to put this list of uncommon deaths into context, here we remind you what are the common causes, as listed by a very reliable source." That clarified, two questions: 1)Why aren't you discussing this on the article talk page? 2)What part of "Go harass someone else" is not clear? --cyclopiaspeak! 14:22, 30 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

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I'm not going to keep clogging that conversation with my reply, so I'll put it here. How many times can I bring up issues that can be fixed by editing? How many times can you say "it can be fixed by editing" when it doesn't get fixed? If the article continues to be bad, it doesn't matter how many people say that in theory someone else could fix it: in practice, it cannot be fixed. Efforts to be more rigorous in sourcing seem to have just resulted in people casting a wider net, looking for even mor dubious sources. Do we really need every death from "New of the Weird" reproduced in Wikipedia?—Kww(talk) 13:19, 6 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Are we going to go to Mars now or in the foreseeable future? Nope. Does this mean it is impossible to go to Mars? Not at all. Is this a good reason to throw the towel about going to Mars? Not at all, if anything the very opposite. Same here. That it has not been fixed so far (and make no mistake, I fully agree there is a problem with OR) does not mean it will never be fixed or that it is practically impossible to fix it. If we had to kill every article with long standing problems (being them OR, POV or whatever), how many articles would be left on WP? A hundred perhaps? It's in the very nature of WP that we are not going to be perfect. Now, if all the effort you, Pbp, Obiwankenobi, TRPOD etc. put in this endless campaign on multiple fronts to kill this article was instead spent on the article talk page, where I tried a few days ago to draft some criteria, things would be different. I agree with you the current status quo of the article should change. There are genuine concerns. But even if it does not, it is still not an argument for deleton: not by policy, not by common sense, not by overall benefit of the encyclopedia. --cyclopiaspeak! 13:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think you greatly underestimate the number of worthwhile articles on Wikipedia and the amount of effort required to counteract a few of the editors that have currently taken an interest in the article. I'll try to contribute constructively to discussion, but it became a lost cause when editors began to disrupt the clean-up process.—Kww(talk) 03:29, 7 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
An article can be worthwile and have long-standing issues. Most of them are like that. I personally think this article is one of them; you are free to disagree, but attempting repeatedly to destroy something that many find valuable and proper on WP only because you don't find it as valuable is not a good approach, in my opinion. That's the general problem in deletion discussions: the judgement of someone puts at jeopardy the availability of information for everyone. Of course this does not mean that we should not delete anything: lots of things have to be deleted for many good reasons. It means however that we should approach such controversial edge cases with care and an open mind.--cyclopiaspeak! 10:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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During the recent AfD for Bisexuality in the Arab world (closed as 'keep') you will either have seen opinions expressed to expand the scope of the article, or voiced that opinion yourself. I am placing this notice on the talk pages of all who expressed an opinion of whatever type in that deletion discussion to invite you to participate in a discussion on article scope and title at Talk:Bisexuality in the Arab world. You are cordially invited to participate. By posting this message I am not seeking to influence your opinion one way or another. Fiddle Faddle 10:30, 7 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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My apologies to bother you here, but I want to be sure you read my message. Last Direktor's post on the Talk page makes me understand two things: 1) He never approved my edit 2) He does not consider necessary to discuss his edit. I might be wrong, but I think that as long he is not clearly assertive (and I am sorry but I doubt he will), there will be always room for unjustified revert. I have already been through that. --Silvio1973 (talk) 06:34, 10 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

I hope you'll stay involved over on that article. A third pair of eyes is a great help to any discussion of this sort. And, to be frank, I am at the ends of endurance. -- Director (talk) 11:31, 13 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
@DIREKTOR: - I hope so, I've been terribly busy these days in real life. Hope to get back at it soon.--cyclopiaspeak! 12:44, 13 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
@Cyclopia: In a few days, the article will be again open for modifications and I wander how things will be this time. I hope we will concentrate more on the contributions and less on the contributors. If for some reason you are too busy or not willing to participate to the discussion I will issue a 3O request and a RfC if the first won't work. My bigger problem here is that I brought a large number of sources supporting the fact that pressures had place to force the Italians to leave but this position is qualified as POV-pushing. Well the issue is that so far I have not seen any source saying the opposite. --Silvio1973 (talk) 10:41, 24 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Dear Cyclopia, do you think to have any time to follow the modification on the article. I have little doubt that any modification won't be controversial. So the implication of more people would be very beneficial. I am tempted to start modifying the article again, but I am not doing it because I do not want to take the risk to break this fragile peace. Perhaps in a few days I will enter in the talk page a proposed modification and wait a few days for comments. --Silvio1973 (talk) 11:20, 6 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

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As part of the second major "outing" controversy to hit the English Wikipedia in less than a year, the Chelsea/Bradley Manning naming dispute was dragged into the spotlight yet again when the English Wikipedia's Arbitration Committee ruled by motion to remove the administrator tools from and ban long-time Wikipedia contributor Phil Sandifer.
It's fair to say that commemorating death was a strong theme this week, with Lou Reed's passing generating interest, as well as a Google Doodle celebrating the costume designer Edith Head. And of course, the world's greatest celebrations of the dead, Halloween and the Day of the Dead, were also popular this week.
HMS Hood, one of the most famous warships of the Second World War, was a battlecruiser and therefore part of what is now the largest featured topic on Wikipedia: "Battlecruisers of the world". The topic was promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week alongside eleven articles, three lists, four pictures, and two other topics.
This week, we spent some time with WikiProject Accessibility, a project that strives to make Wikipedia accessible for users with disabilities. The project improves Wikipedia's guidelines and Manual of Style, collects useful templates and scripts, and provides support to impaired Wikipedians.
The Ebionites 3 case has closed with an interaction ban for the two editors involved in the dispute.
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Surnames

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Hi,

I would appreciate if you could give me your opinion about surname articles.

  • Are all surnames notable enough to be covered by separate articles?
  • There are surnames which have the same origin but different spelling in different languages. For example Čorbadžić. This surname exists in Serbian, Bosniak and Croatian language. The other versions of this surname exist in Turkish language (çorbacı), in Albanian language (Corbaxhiu), in Bulgarian language (Чорбаджи). Should all of them be covered with different articles? Although I am not completely sure, I think they should not, unless there is some particularly notably family with many different family members on specific language. In case of the above mentioned surname the main article should be probably titled per anglicized version with other language version listed in the article and sorted within categories.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
I have no idea why you are asking me but: as for everything else, just follow sources.--cyclopiaspeak! 21:37, 13 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
I asked you because I was impressed with your involvement in the dispute described a couple of sections above. Thanks for your reply. Cheers!--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:48, 13 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

List of massacres in Germany

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Hi, in the deletion discussion (requested by me) you wrote : "instead of lifting a finger to actually improve it (or ask people to do it on some relevant Wikiproject) prefers to just erase it?" - while I agree that improvement is better than deletion, this article is not improved by "lifting a finger". As I pointed out, the German article de:Endphasenverbrechen ('end phase crimes') lists more than hundred massacres in 1944/45 alone - I could put hours of work in this, which I don't have at the moment, and the article would still be woefully incomplete, and list only a fraction of Nazi war crimes. -- Seelefant (talk) 20:29, 14 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

That is probably very accurate: so what? WP is a collaborative work in progress. I am not saying that you should finish it alone yourself. I am saying that if you think it has to be improved, well, then you can try to start improving it, instead than putting actual effort into destroying it. --cyclopiaspeak! 22:26, 14 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Please do not remove tags without first improving the article. Articles with no sources cannot be assumed to automatically be notable pbp 18:48, 21 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

There is nothing to improve notability wise. The tag is simply nonsense. Please keep the discussion on the article talk page.--cyclopiaspeak! 20:52, 21 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Until that article gets to FL, there will always be something to improve sourcing-wise. As with unusual deaths and unusual chemical compounds, the fact that it passed an AfD doesn't mean that it's perfect and that editors can't propose changes and/or tag it pbp 21:09, 21 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Go. On. The. Article. Talk. Page. --cyclopiaspeak! 21:36, 21 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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The numbers this week are beyond anything that has been seen since this report began. The top view count beats the average by an order of magnitude. Usually the appearance of numbers this big on the list is due to spamming, but in this case it seems they are due to honest interest; more specifically, Google Doodles, which for the first time claimed all five top slots. This column has raised numerous times the power of a Google Doodle to shine light on Wikipedia, but the wattage has never been as high as this.
Five articles, two lists, one topic, and nine pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia last week.
The supporting staff of the Wikimedia Foundation’s powerful volunteer Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) have released their assessments for the third half-yearly round of funding applications. The applications for the newly named annual plan grants were submitted by affiliated entities on 1 October, and comprise a total of more than US$5M in bids.
The Italian-language Wikipedia community has overwhelmingly voted to request the Wikimedia Foundation's assistance in recovering wikipedia.it, a website that has been frequently confused with the Italian Wikipedia.
This week, we followed the intricate storylines of WikiProject Soap Operas.
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As I said in August, contributing to the Signpost can be one of the most rewarding things an editor can do. The genre is refreshingly different from that of Wikipedia articles, and can allow writers to use a different range of skills. The need for an independent, volunteer-run Signpost continues to grow, given the increasing complexity and financial expenditures of the global Wikimedia movement, not to mention the English Wikipedia.
Peter Burke's A Social History of Knowledge: Volume II: From the Encyclopédie to Wikipedia is a broad and wide-ranging look at how knowledge has been created, acquired, organized, disseminated, and sometimes lost in the Western world over the last two and a half centuries, a sequel to his 2000 book covering the prior three centuries, A Social History of Knowledge: From Gutenberg to Diderot.
Four articles, five lists, and thirty-four pictures were promoted to 'featured status' this week, including an image of a small fraction of the 18,000 taxis that serve Hong Kong.
This week, we headed over to WikiProject National Football League. With 10 Featured Articles, 61 Featured Lists, and 142 Good Articles (as of publication), this WikiProject has done a lot of work improving American football articles.
The Wikimedia Foundation has sent a formal cease and desist letter to Wiki-PR—the public relations agency accused of breaking Wikipedia policies and guidelines by creating, editing, and maintaining several thousand articles for paying clients through a sophisticated array of accounts. The Foundation's attorneys, Cooley LLP, have demanded that Wiki-PR's employees abide by the site's Terms of Use and the language of a community ban from the English Wikipedia.
It's not hard to guess which event is leading interest in the top 25 this week. The sheer scale of Typhoon Haiyan is staggering; estimates place its maximum windspeed upon first landfall in the Philippines on November 6 at 315 km/h, which would make it the most powerful tropical cyclone ever to reach land. To date, the storm has killed nearly 4000 people and damaged or destroyed nearly 4 million homes.
Back in March, when the March 25 Arbitration Report covered the Audit Subcommittee appointment discussion, a statement from the WMF legal division clarified its position that access to deleted revisions required an RFA or RFA-identical process; therefore AUSC committee appointments were not open to non-admins. The WMF legal team has now further clarified its position, saying that running for and winning an election for arbitrator would qualify as the type of rigorous community selection process required for the checkuser and oversight rights held by arbitrators.

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Summary:Doctor Who nearly got cancelled in its first week because its premiere was swamped by coverage of the JFK assassination, which happened the same day. Thankfully, producers saw fit to rerun it the next day, which is now its official anniversary date.
Wikipedia works on the efforts of unpaid volunteers who choose to donate their time to advance the cause of free knowledge. This phenomenon, as trivial as it may sound to those acquainted with Wikipedia inner workings, has always puzzled economists and social scientists alike, in that standard Economic theory would not predict that such enterprises would thrive without any form of remuneration.
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The sister project Wikisource, the digital library that hosts free-content primary sources, is now a decade old. Wikisource, which now has versions in 63 languages, is the sixth type of project to reach ten-year milestone and will be the last until 2016. The Wikimedia Foundation's volunteer Funds Dissemination Committee has published its recommendations to the Board of Trustees on 11 new applications for annual grants by 11 WMF-affiliated organisations. The maximum total budget for the current and upcoming March rounds is US$6M.
This week, we returned to WikiProject Apple Inc. for a peek at their newest articles about the latest in gadgets and software. The last time we took a bite out of WikiProject Apple, they had just finished merging WikiProject Macintosh and WikiProject iPhone OS. Today, the project is hard at work rewriting their primary article, improving the subject's outline, and adding to the project's list of 25 Good Articles and 6 Featured Articles.
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Seventeen articles, four lists, and twenty-eight pictures were promoted to "featured" status in the last two weeks.
The Ottoman Empire–Turkey naming dispute case has opened. The second draft of the discretionary sanctions proposal is now open for review.

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When one edits this page for too long, one is tempted to appoint oneself as the psychoanalyst for the human race, or at least the English-speaking portion thereof. Since nearly everyone uses Wikipedia, the constant stream of TV updates, pointless celebrity scandals, and inquiries after who has died can seem like a dreary peek into humanity's surprisingly banal collective consciousness.
Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales caught headlines last week when he referred to former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden ... Loek Essers of the International Data Group, (IDG) News Service is reporting that a German court has held Wikipedia liable for its content, but still does not have to fact check the information in advance.
Amid great anticipation the international prize winners have just been announced for the fourth annual Wiki Loves Monuments, now the world's largest photographic competition and one of the biggest events on the Wikimedia movement's calendar. ... The first prize has gone to David Gubler's photograph of a Swiss train crossing a viaduct.
This week, the Signpost interviewed the Wine WikiProject.
On 7 December, Wikipedia editor Wehwalt reached the momentous milestone of 100 featured articles with History of Chincoteague, Virginia. Quite apart from the reading and research, that's around three-quarters of a million words of finalised text, not counting footnotes, image captions and the rest.
Three articles, one list, and eight pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.
On 6 December, the latest version of the MediaWiki software was released. In development from March 2013 through October 2013, the release featured anti-spam and counter-vandalism improvements.

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If a cause of death is so common that there is an article on it, it cannot be unusual. Abductive (reasoning) 15:51, 18 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

What is unusual is not the immediate death cause, in that case, but all the circumstances around it. And in any case we do not substitute original research, and your argument is textbook WP:OR. We follow what sources say. Please discuss this on article talk page, not here. --cyclopiaspeak! 15:53, 18 December 2013 (UTC)Reply
Use of a primary source when disputed/challenged is against Wikipedia Policy. Stop. Abductive (reasoning) 16:03, 18 December 2013 (UTC)Reply
Funny. You are disputing a source using your own original research, and then I get lectured on sources? Rrrrright. And again, it is the whole context that matters, not the individual cause of death, otherwise we could classify all deaths as obvious, the ultimate cause being always "brain stops working". If you have a better source calling that specific individual case as "mundane" or something like that, then you have a case. Until that, we stick to what the sources we have at hand say. And why are you discussing this here? Please move this to the article talk page. --cyclopiaspeak! 16:09, 18 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

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This week, the Signpost interviewed the Tunisia WikiProject on the French Wikipedia.
An animated Google Doodle for computer programmer and naval rear admiral Grace Hopper generated another record-breaking hit count for the year, though the count for the list overall was lower than for that of the previous holder.
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A little more than six days after the close of voting, the results of the annual Arbitration Committee (ArbCom) elections have been announced. Of the 22 candidates, 13 managed to gain more supports than opposes, though only one gained the support of more than half of the voters. Eight were elected to two-year terms, and a ninth will serve for one year.
Seven articles, three lists, and eight pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia this week.
This week, the GLAMWikiToolset, or GWToolset, is being deployed to the Wikimedia Commons. It allows for GLAM organizations to batch upload content based on various metadata stored in an XML schema. In the past this has been done by various bots, but now it will be easier for GLAMs to do it directly.

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 Happy Yuletides!  

Merry Yuletides to you! (And a happy new year!)

 


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The Signpost: 25 December 2013

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Analyzing edits to the-then 46 largest Wikipedias between July 9 and August 8, 2013, a study identified a set of about 8,000 contributors with a global user account who have edited more than one of these language versions in that time frame.
Five articles, two lists, and five pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
We saved one last special report for 2013. After our well-received review of great WikiProject logos a couple years ago, it was only a matter of time before we collected a new batch of interesting iconography that showcases the creativity of the Wikipedia community. Hopefully, these logos will also inspire other projects to liven up their drab pages.
A significant move by the Wikimedia Foundation has been to broaden the types of activities it funds to develop several different programs for judging and allocating that funding, and to set up volunteer committees that initially assess applications for funding.
Last month, the OAuth extension was deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. OAuth is a standard used for allowing users to authenticate third-party applications, also known as consumers, to take actions on their behalf.

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Happy New Year!
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Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 11:17, 1 January 2014 (UTC)Reply


 


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In fact, the majority are relatively evenly split between three themes: people of interest, television, and websites.
In 2013, the arbitration committee closed 10 cases, 9 amendment requests, and 26 clarification requests.
On New Year's Day, an article by Tim Sampson published in The Daily Dot and republished shortly after on Mashable covered the currently ongoing medical disclaimer RfC.
Dariusz Jemielniak's book is the newest about Wikipedia, published in Poland in 2013 and with an English edition forthcoming in 2014.
This was the year in which one journalist described the flagship site, Wikipedia, as "wickedly seductive". It was the year Wikipedia's replacement value was estimated at $6.6bn, its market value at "tens of billions of dollars", and its consumer benefit "hundreds of billions of dollars". But it was also the year in which one commentator forecast the decline of Wikipedia—that the project is in trouble from its shrinking volunteer workforce, skewed coverage, "crushing bureaucracy" and 90 percent male community.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia and around the Wikimedia movement include...
The year 2013 has come and gone, adding 50 new WikiProject Reports to our long list of projects we've had the privilege to meet. Last year saw the continuation of our Babel series, featuring WikiProjects from other languages of Wikipedia. We also expanded our selection of special reports, offering readers a growing collection of helpful tips and tools as they participate in WikiProjects.
Over the past year 1181 pieces of featured content were promoted. The most active of the featured content programs was featured picture candidates (FPC), which promoted an average of 46 pictures a month. This was followed by featured article candidates (FAC; 32.5 a month). Coming in third was featured list candidates (FLC; 18 a month).
2013 saw a lot of changes to MediaWiki software and Wikimedia infrastructure.

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Public Domain Day—January 1, 2014—gives me an opportunity to reflect on this important asset, mandated by the Constitution of the United States.
The various maladies that befall humanity got some well-known faces this week: the death of the well-liked actor James Avery topped the list, but Michael Schumacher, who is in a coma after a skiing accident, also drew attention.
MediaWiki developers will be meeting in San Francisco on January 23–24 for an Architecture Summit.
On 8 January, the Wikimedia Foundation notified the Wikimedia-l mailing list that Sarah Stierch, a popular Wikimedian and the Foundation's Program Evaluation Community Coordinator, was no longer an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, as a result of being paid to create articles on the English Wikipedia.
At the very start of the new year, 2014's WikiCup—an annual competition which has been held on Wikipedia in various forms since 2007—began.
This week, we spent some time with WikiProject Television.
Twelve articles, three lists, seven pictures, and a portal were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia in the last two weeks.

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Wikimedia Germany, the largest national affiliate, has authored an extensive critique of the Funds Dissemination Committee's process for issuing funding recommendations for the various large organizations in the movement.
The proposed schedule for the MediaWiki Archicture Summit has been published. The two main plenary sessions will be about HTML templating, and Service-oriented architecture.
It is heavily ironic that two decades after the World Wide Web was started — largely to make it easier to share scholarly research — most of our past and present research publications are still hidden behind paywalls for private profit. The bitter twist is that the vast majority of this research is publicly funded, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars worldwide each year.
Wikipedia's recent decline in readership, possibly due to Google's Knowledge Graph. ... Judith Newman in the New York Times asks "What Does Judith Newman Have to Do to Get a Page?"
We now can get a far more accurate picture of which short surges in popularity are likely natural and which are not.
This week, we studied human social behavior with the folks at WikiProject Sociology.

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A particularly esoteric anthology of speculative fiction, filled with imaginary Wikipedia entries from, as the introduction puts it, "the many Wikipedias across the Multiverse."
The Wikimedia Foundation's Director of Community Advocacy's application of pending changes level two on the article Conventional PCI—an action taken under its rarely used office actions policy—has escalated to the Arbitration Committee after an editor upgraded it to full protection.
Fifteen articles, nine lists, twenty pictures, and one topic were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia over the last two weeks.
On 15 January, Wikipedia turned thirteen years old. In that time, this site has grown from a small site that was known to only a select few to one of the most popular websites on the internet. At the same time, recent data suggests that there is a power curve among users, where the comparative few who are writing most of Wikipedia have most of the edits. The result of this is that there is going to be bias in what is created, and how we deal with it as Wikipedians is indicative of the future of the site. Furthermore, this brings up what we have to do in order to combat this bias, as there are many ideas, but the question is whether they will work or not.
This week we're interviewing Brion Vibber about the then-upcoming Architecture Summit. Brion is a long time Wikipedian, the first employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, and currently the lead software architect working with the mobile team.
An article in USA Today announced that a European-funded project called RoboEarth that is designed to give robots a mechanism by which to access information to dispense.
While the 71st Golden Globe Awards, held on 12 January, had an impact on the top 25, their presence was largely absent from the Top 10. With the exception of Best Actor winner Leonardo DiCaprio, the only Golden Globe entrants in the Top 10 are films that would have been there anyway.

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There are times when this job is hard. As an analogy, imagine navigating in fog at night, except you don't know where you are, you don't know where you want to go, and your flashlight keeps dying on you.
Contests have existed almost as long as the English Wikipedia. Contestants have expanded hundreds of articles and made tens of thousands of edits. Although it may seem as though there aren't any negatives to contests, they have occasionally become a divisive topic on the English Wikipedia.
Wiki-PR, a public relations agency, whose employees used a sophisticated array of concealed user accounts to create, edit, and maintain several thousand Wikipedia articles for paying clients, has told Business Insider that it was demonized by the online encyclopedia. Jordan French, Wiki-PR's CEO, said he believes the Wikimedia Foundation "painted" his company to look like an "evil entity" that is "scrubbing truths from Wikipedia".
The Kafziel case has been closed, with Kafziel losing his administrator status as a result.
An author experimented with "a promising type of assignment in formal translator training which involves translating and publishing Wikipedia articles", in three courses with students at the University of Warsaw.

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There are times when this job is hard. As an analogy, imagine navigating in fog at night, except you don't know where you are, you don't know where you want to go, and your flashlight keeps dying on you.
Contests have existed almost as long as the English Wikipedia. Contestants have expanded hundreds of articles and made tens of thousands of edits. Although it may seem as though there aren't any negatives to contests, they have occasionally become a divisive topic on the English Wikipedia.
Wiki-PR, a public relations agency, whose employees used a sophisticated array of concealed user accounts to create, edit, and maintain several thousand Wikipedia articles for paying clients, has told Business Insider that it was demonized by the online encyclopedia. Jordan French, Wiki-PR's CEO, said he believes the Wikimedia Foundation "painted" his company to look like an "evil entity" that is "scrubbing truths from Wikipedia".
The Kafziel case has been closed, with Kafziel losing his administrator status as a result.
An author experimented with "a promising type of assignment in formal translator training which involves translating and publishing Wikipedia articles", in three courses with students at the University of Warsaw.

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As reported in various media outlets this week, including The Next Web and The Daily Dot, this past week, Wikimedia Commons and various language Wikipedias are working together to encourage subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second clip of their voice to be appended to their Wikipedia article.
Software evolution does not always mean that features are being added. It also means that old fat is being trimmed. It is no different for MediaWiki.
In a bold move, the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees has announced a major change in policy concerning affiliated groups in the worldwide movement, and FDC funding levels to eligible chapters and thematic organizations over the next two years. Both decisions were published last Tuesday after considerable post-meeting consultation with the FDC and the Affiliations Committee (AffCom). The core of the first decision is
Thirteen articles, three lists, and twenty-five images were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia from 19 January to 1 February.
Two great sporting events, the Super Bowl and the Winter Olympics, collide in one week, transforming the top ten into a festival of flying feet, a carnival of colliding caraniums and a bacchanal of bouncing balls, combined to influence Wikipedia's most popular articles last week.
In celebration of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, we revisited the team at WikiProject Russia to learn how the project has changed since our first interview in 2011.

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The Wikimedia Foundation has proposed to modify the Wikimedia projects' Terms of use to specifically ban undisclosed paid editing. ... Dimitris Liourdis, a lawyer in training who moonlights as an administrator on the Greek Wikipedia, is embroiled in a legal dispute with a Greek politician over alleged edits made to his Wikipedia article.
Runa Bhattacharjee has notified the community that the Foundation is ready to turn the Universal Language Selector back on.
WikiProject Countering System Bias aims to combat imbalanced coverage while encouraging neglected cultural perspectives and points of view, both in articles and in the larger Wikipedia community. As you'll see from the varied experiences and motivations of our nine respondents, the biases that the folks at WP CSB tackle run the full gamut of human characteristics and dispositions. The interview that follows unveils many of Wikipedia's greatest shortcomings.
Five articles, seven lists, forty-three pictures, and two portals were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia in the last two weeks.
Valentines Day got a somewhat muted reception this week, overshadowed by continuing coverage of the Winter Olympics in Sochi and the death of Shirley Temple.

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About a week ago, the Wikimedia Foundation proposed to modify the Wikimedia projects' terms of use to specifically ban paid editing, by adding a new clause titled "Paid contributions without disclosure". We have asked two users, one in favor of the measure (Smallbones) and one opposed (Pete Forsyth), to contribute their opinions on the matter.
Eight articles, three lists, and nine pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.
This week, we found three Ph.D.s willing to give us a crash course on WikiProject Neuroscience.
Ukraine has been gripped by widespread protests over the past three months. Due to a decision by former president Viktor Yanukovych—at Russia's urging—to abandon integration with the European Union, the country was (and in many ways still is) split between the Europe-favoring Ukrainian-speaking western half and the Russian-speaking east and south. Hundreds have died during the unrest, leaving thousands of family members and friends to bury their loved ones. This week our Wikimedian colleagues in Ukraine are facing that challenge after the death of one of their own.
Following a trend started by Wikimedia Israel, Wikimedia Argentina has published an open letter challenging the recent deletion of hundreds of images from the Commons under its policy on URAA-restored copyrights, relating to the United States' 1994 Uruguay Round Agreements Act.
The 2014 Winter Olympics had more of an impact on the Top 25 than the Top 10, which had to shoulder old stalwarts like the death list, Reddit threads, TV shows and the eternal presence of Facebook; still, with four slots, it's the most searched topic on the list.
The monthly roundup of recent academic research about Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, edited jointly with the Wikimedia Research Committee.

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There's nothing like a good old bit of Cold War nostalgia, combined with a suitably scary international incident, to focus our attention on the real world. That said, nothing could stem our outpouring of affection for the beloved comedian Harold Ramis, whose death managed to top the week in the face of those international concerns.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
This week, the Signpost caught up with the Wikipedia Library (TWL), which aims to connect reference resources with Wikipedia editors who can use them to improve articles. Funded through the Wikimedia Foundation's Individual Engagement Grants program, TWL has a new "visiting scholars" initiative and a microgrants program in the works.
The WikiCup competition is ongoing, while six articles, three lists, and ten pictures were promoted to "featured" status of the English Wikipedia this week.
This week, the Signpost delved into the English Wikipedia's Article Rescue Squadron.

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Wikimedians around the world gathered to celebrate Women's History Month and the associated International Women's Day by holding editathons. If you lived in the United Kingdom, you had the opportunity to attend Wikimedia UK's event at the Petrie Museum of Egyptian Archaeology, part of University College London and host to one of the largest collections of Egyptian and Sudanese artifacts in the world.
An intensely busy week, as a confluence of celebratory, curious and urgent topics pushed typical residents like Facebook and Deaths in 2014 out of the top ten entirely.
Five articles, two lists, and 52 pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
This week, we interviewed Anaxibia from the Russian-language Entomology WikiProject.

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Thank you for your attention to my proposed deletion of this article. While I understand your stated desire to curtail overzealous deletions, it might be helpful if specific pages -- particularly ones which receive virtually no attention, link to few/no sources, are orphaned pages, contain little if any information, and cover generally non-notable topics -- just be allowed to go. If it had any useful info I might try merging it with another stub or two, such as Automobile_engine, but it simply doesn't. Frank Mottley (talk) 23:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Frank Mottley, no. Just no. Pages on notable topics that receive no attention should receive more; if they link few sources they should be sourced; if they are orphaned they should be de-orphaned, and if they contain little information they should be expanded. WP:BOLD. That's how WP works: by improving and increasing notable information, not by removing it. We have no deadline and we're a work in progress. Regardless, you cannot re-propose a contested PROD -see WP:PROD. Thanks.--cyclopiaspeak! 05:24, 23 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Non-US editors and chapters have taken issue with a multitude of image deletions done on the Wikimedia Commons to comply with the Uruguay Round Agreements Act, a US law that brought the country into compliance with the Berne Convention.
This week, we visited WikiProject History, an ancient project with roots dating back to 2001. The project is home to 196 pieces of Featured material and 483 Good and A-class articles independent of the vast accomplishments of its various child projects. WikiProject History maintains a lengthy list of tasks, oversees the history portal, and continues to build Wikipedia's outline of history.
In a record-breaker, the English Wikipedia has a new largest good topic: the 71-article Light cruisers of Germany, which concerns the light cruisers used by Germany during the 20th century.
Twelve articles, fourteen lists, and six pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia last week.
One of the first university Wikipedian in residence positions, hosted at Harvard University in 2012, has jumped back into the spotlight amid questions about its ethical integrity.
The utterly mystifying events surrounding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which has not fallen from the sky so much as vanished from it entirely, has left an information-starved public scrambling for precedents, some logical, some... not.
The Wikimedia engineering report for February 2014 has been published. A summarized version is also available. Major news include

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April Fools' Day is rapidly approaching. Every year, members of the community pull pranks and make (or attempt to make) humorous edits to pages across the project. Every year, the community follows April Fools' Day with a contentious debate about whether or not it is necessary to impose limits on April Fools' Day jokes for future years. It is a polarizing issue.
Topics like the 2014 Crimea crisis or the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 eased down the list, making way for such traditional topics as St Patrick's Day, Reddit threads and even Google Doodles, which have reappeared after a long absence.
Have you wondered about differences in the articles on Crimea in the Russian, Ukrainian, and English versions of Wikipedia? A newly published article entitled "Lost in Translation: Contexts, Computing, Disputing on Wikipedia" doesn't address Crimea, but nonetheless offers insight into the editing of contentious articles in multiple language editions through a heavy qualitative examination of Wikipedia articles about the Kosovo in the Serbian, Croatian, and English editions.
Results for the two-stage 2013 Commons Picture of the Year have been announced. This year's winning photograph (above) shows a lightbulb that has been cracked, allowing inert gas to escape—and oxygen to enter, so that the tungsten filament burns. From the flames rise elegant curls of blue smoke.
Four articles, two lists, and twelve pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
On 3 April, we will roll out some changes to the typography of Wikipedia's default Vector skin, to increase readability for users on all devices and platforms. After five months of testing, four major iterations, and through close collaboration with the global Wikimedia community, who provided more than 100 threads of feedback, we’ve arrived at a solution which improves the primary reading and editing experience for all users.
As you have probably read on this weeks op-ed, or via various other channels of announcement, 3 April will see the introduction of the Typography refresh (or update) for the Vector skin on all Wikipedias. Other projects like Commons will have this update rolled out a few days prior.
This week, the Signpost interviewed the English Wikipedia's Mountains WikiProject.

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The run-up to the conference has seen the unfolding of two fractious threads on the Wikimedia public mailing list, both of which may serve as background for the last session at Berlin: "Future of the Wikimedia Conference".
This week, we visited with WikiProject Germany.
The annual Wikimedia Conference is about to start in Berlin, hosted by Wikimedia Germany, which won the bid to hold the event over three others. This will be the fifth time the chapter has hosted the Wikimedia Conference—it did so from 2009 to 2012, with attendance ranging from 100 to 180 Wikimedians. This year 160 people are expected at the four-day event, which is mainly for representatives of affiliated Wikimedia organisations. The conference has been built around two themes: Organisation, structures, and grants and Success and impact.
The Signpost's "Featured content" writers had a bit of fun this week.
The mysterious fate of MH370 still tops the list, but in all other respects our readership has retreated from the real world into its pop-cultural happy place: TV, movies, music, Reddit and Google Doodles all made an appearance.
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