Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2008 Bathurst van collision

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep - Philippe | Talk 06:01, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Bathurst van collision

Article about a bus crash. Recieved a flurry of media attention, but has no lasting significance. Wikipedia is not a news service. The article has behaved in a similar way to the media attention- a load of editing, and now a (possibly) permanent lull. J Milburn (talk) 16:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional keep. "It was also the worst accident involving a Canadian sports team.". If that's true (I have not found a ref yet), then it's a notable accident. Otherwise delete.Halfmast (talk) 17:05, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge consider merging it with Bathurst High School. I doubt it has sufficient notability for it's own article. --neonwhite user page talk 18:23, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- There's already a little section at Bathurst High School (Bathurst, New Brunswick). Some more would be good, certainly. J Milburn (talk) 18:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, press coverage establishes notability. Everyking (talk) 19:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Bathurst High School (Bathurst, New Brunswick). Unfortunatly, there's lots of accidents. --brew crewer (yada, yada) 20:06, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This doesn't seem to be considered a simple incident; it is called "the worst in New Brunswick since ... 1989". Also, I doubt that all incidents have had called "a day of mourning across the country". As for the argument on "no lasting significance", what can be told for sure is that it's still very much in the news [1]. As for the argument that the article is in "permanent lull", it's not an argument at all: editing on Africa-related articles, I know how much a single editor can make the difference, even if those articles, as unfortantely happens quite often there, may not be edited for literally years, automated edits excluded. After all, you yourself had to add a "possibly".--Aldux (talk) 20:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - "worst" is a subjective term, the text in the article is also unsourced (as is the "day of mourning") and there is no criteria for how to measure how bad an accident is. It's just not encyclopedic, so it cannot be kept on that basis. --neonwhite user page talk 17:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I took for granted that "worst" meant in this context "most deadly", and this wouldn't seem to me so subjective. Anyways, at least regarding that it's the second most deadly incident in all New Bruswick's history and the biggest since 1989 I've found this source [2]. That it's the worst incident ever involving a Canadian sports team is said here [3]. As for the mourning day, this may be a possible misunderstanding of the source: Harper says that the nation is in mourning, but doesn't speak of a formal day of mourning.[4]--Aldux (talk) 18:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep due to the unfortunate records and the national day of mourning. Everyday accidents don't get that. --Dhartung | Talk 22:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Bathurst High School (Bathurst, New Brunswick). There are not many links to the article and is hard to search up. People who want to read this can just go to the school article. Besides, it is mow part of the history of the school. smileydude66 (talk) 21:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep concerning events in New Brunswick, this is a major event and will probably lead to laws and regulation changes in New Brunswick and maybe other areas in Canada (currently their is proceedings to ban certain types of vehicles from sports team use). Under the condition that it will cause lasting change, this article is a keep. --Kuzwa (talk) 23:38, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.