Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 in basketball
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. WP:SNOW keep. (non-admin closure) power~enwiki (π, ν) 04:21, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Currently just a bunch of unfilled section headers, and fails WP:CRYSTALBALL. Previously nominated for PROD by Robert McClenon (rationale: "This does not have enough substantive content to be an article, and consists of placeholder headings. This is not a useful encyclopedia page.") and then declined by Rikster2 (rationale: "These articles collect information on the sport throughout the year. We just had our first item - a notable death. The page has to be present for items to be added"). Nathan2055talk - contribs 22:31, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Draftspace it Although it's 2019 now, which was the reason for it being accepted at AfC, it has no significant content. The only content is one person listed as dead. In a few months, there will likely be significant information for the article, but it's too soon for now. No point in deleting and recreating, draftspace is better in my opinion. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:34, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - Don't Draft space it the new year has started you better keep it. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 22:57, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. These articles exist all over - 2019 in baseball, 2019 in paleontology, etc. we just had the first event of 2019 - a notable death, added to the article and sourced - and we are 3 days into the year. If the issue is you want tables that show dates for scheduled events, we can add them but that’s improving an article not deleting it. This is probably the 7th-8th year these articles have existed from January 1 (or therabout) and this is the first time I can remember one being nominated for deletion once the year starts. Look at 2018 in basketball and you can see how it gets filled out through the course of the year. Rikster2 (talk) 23:16, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep It's not WP:TOOSOON, it's already 2019 and information will continue to be added to it as time goes on. 2020 in basketball is probably WP:TOOSOON at this point, but this is a proper current "event". SportingFlyer talk 23:42, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per Rikster2 and SportingFlyer. Jweiss11 (talk) 23:46, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per Rikster2 and SportingFlyer's arguments. Ejgreen77 (talk) 00:06, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete or Draftify - We should remember that Wikipedia is written for the reader, not read for the writer. An article that consists of nothing but placeholder headings is not useful for the reader. Just because Other Stuff Has Previously Existed doesn't mean that it should have existed. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:07, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Readers do use the page. I would point you to WP:ATD - “If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page.” Again, would information on dates and sites of upcoming tournaments, etc. make it more useful to the reader? If so, page improvement should be pursued vs. deleting, so what are the suggestions? There is a whole class of “year in” articles, so are you suggesting none should exist on January 3rd? That’s not “other stuff exists,” it’s a serious question about a class of articles we know are used through the year, including this series. Rikster2 (talk) 02:22, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. Rikster2 (talk) 02:51, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY. Little doubt there will be more events and this page can be populated. Waste of cycles deleting or moving just to recreate or move back.—Bagumba (talk) 09:55, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep Complete waste of time, topic is clearly notable. This AfD is disruptive. Smartyllama (talk) 14:30, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per per Rikster2 and SportingFlyer's arguments. Also, aren't there several ongoing 2018–19 seasons that can now be added there? Dammit_steve (talk) 16:30, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.