Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/99 Bottles of Beer computer program
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was no consensus. Woohookitty 10:37, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Computer source code which should be transwikied to Wikisource. We already have a 99 Bottles of Beer page, which is encyclopedic, but this content should not be merged there. -- Curps 16:11, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- copyvio from [1]. — mendel ☎ 20:32, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, no transwiki, no merge. Not encyclopedic topic, just a dozen examples of a frequently-seen and undistinguished exercise in simple programming. Wouldn't be Wikisource material even if it weren't lifted from a non-GFDL source. Barno 20:43, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikisource has a whole repository of source code at Wikisource:Wikisource:Source code. See Flood fill example in C (AfD discussion) for what happened to an article similar to this. Uncle G 16:00, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikisource has a repository of noteworthy source code, as I understand it, which can be used in Wikimedia projects to illustrate something important to that subject as a somewhat authoritative reference. I agree that an example of flood-fill code in such a common language is useful for an article on flood fill as a (minor) data processing technique. I don't think I agree that a bunch of mini-programs to count down "99 bottles of beer on the wall" in various programming languages provides any useful illustration of any important concept. (If comparison of simple looping structures were critical to an article, I'd change my mind.) But I see this as a collection of minutiae, related only by a trvial detail, that probably won't help Wikisource support WP or a related reference. I didn't mean to suggest that no source code should be in Wikisource. Barno 18:03, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: The "what links here" function reports only the 99 Bottles of Beer page, the "see also" section of the similar (but at least expanded with some quasi-history) Hello world program page, and non-articles such as user pages and this AfD. If this page gave real context to a discussion in some other page about programming techniques, I'd be more inclined to see it as belonging here or at least in Wikisource. Barno 18:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikisource has a repository of noteworthy source code, as I understand it, which can be used in Wikimedia projects to illustrate something important to that subject as a somewhat authoritative reference. I agree that an example of flood-fill code in such a common language is useful for an article on flood fill as a (minor) data processing technique. I don't think I agree that a bunch of mini-programs to count down "99 bottles of beer on the wall" in various programming languages provides any useful illustration of any important concept. (If comparison of simple looping structures were critical to an article, I'd change my mind.) But I see this as a collection of minutiae, related only by a trvial detail, that probably won't help Wikisource support WP or a related reference. I didn't mean to suggest that no source code should be in Wikisource. Barno 18:03, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikisource has a whole repository of source code at Wikisource:Wikisource:Source code. See Flood fill example in C (AfD discussion) for what happened to an article similar to this. Uncle G 16:00, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Nice comparison of basic programming techniques to do something a little more complex than print "Hello world" on your monitor. I don't believe this constitutes a copyvio either - most of these programs are so generic that they could not be considered copyrightable, and this article does not bear any resemblance to the site which it is claimed is being violated. Denni☯ 03:07, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The basis of this Afd is that the content is not encyclopedic and should be transwikied to Wikisource. -- Curps 06:49, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- From Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not: "Wikipedia articles are not [...] collections of source material [...] such as source code". Uncle G 16:00, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or transwiki to Wikisource, assuming Denni is correct about the copyright issue. This is a nifty comparison. Crypticfirefly 04:48, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I've transwikied it to Wikisource. Wikipedia is not a repository of source code. Delete. Uncle G 16:00, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree this might be useful, but doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Delete since Uncle G has transwikied it to Wikisource. I tend to feel that code should appear in Wikipedia only if tightly integrated with an encyclopedia article; otherwise an external link to Wikisource is probably more appropriate.---CH (talk) 02:18, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete once Uncle G's transwikification is complete. (I couldn't find it at Wikisource:Transwiki:99 Bottles of Beer computer program or Wikisource:99 Bottles of Beer computer program) --Angr/tɔk tə mi 08:29, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or merge with something other. But its a good example after the Hello World one. helohe 16:30, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete A transwiki having been done, leaving only a dicdef, the redundancy of keeping it here fails a cost/benefit analysis. The Literate Engineer 02:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.