Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ALFB transliteration

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 17:13, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALFB transliteration (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

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A system of Romanization of Arabic which is either made up or completely non-notable. It has grand total of 164 filtered GHits [1], which are almost all wikipedia mirrors and forks. Zero hits at Scholar.

The actual creator is 62.220.33.64 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), who introduced wikilinks to the article (actually, to Talk:ALFB transliteration) at quite a few articles, so these all should be rolled back/undone. See User talk:62.220.33.64#ALFB transliteration for the background No such user (talk) 11:17, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, both hoaxes and topics made up by users are unsuitable article topics. Nyttend (talk) 12:04, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment My question is: "How did an IP create an article?"Curb Chain (talk) 13:13, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  He created Talk:ALFB transliteration and linked that from other articles. I spotted it and moved it to the mainspace. Then, I got a second thought about it... No such user (talk) 13:26, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused: was this article originally a redirect? But the history says that he created it.Curb Chain (talk) 06:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, it was originally a talk page. IPs can create talk pages. [I wasn't aware that it's possible to create a talk page without a supporting article, and that should probably be fixed/configured in mediaWiki; it makes sense only in user: namespace]. No such user (talk) 06:32, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well I just logged out and tried searching something bogus, but instead of returning a red link, it just says that it returned no results. So how was this IP able to create ANY page?Curb Chain (talk) 06:50, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Try to edit Talk:Random page as an anon and you will succeed (don't forget to mark it {{db-talk}} afterwards). Actually, you will see even from the deletion logs that it is possible, and such pages were created in the past (e.g. Talk:Test page, Talk:Red link). No such user (talk) 07:06, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

From a technical standpoint, this feature (!) exists so that IP users can leave messages on talk pages that do not yet exist, either for users who haven't bothered making a talk page or for articles where no talk page has yet been needed. The system isn't set up to verify that the article/user page the talk page is attached to actually exists, though several bots will drop {{db-g8}} on such talk pages. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 14:00, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment When this is deleted, which appears to be likely, make certain the various pages that links to this page are cleaned up as well. Carolina wren (talk) 15:45, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  Maybe it is likely to be turned back to the TALK until the sources will be found. QeshemB (talk) 17:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment #2 That seems to stick around longer than few today. It is mentioned in Romanization of Arabic (I don't have the time to check the history). Someone noticed that in Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 3#Romanization of Arabic. So, the system is actually used (if not linked) in pages Hassan Nasrallah and Abbas al-Musawi. Thus, the cleanup should be somewhat more detailed. (I do volunteer.) No such user (talk) 06:39, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  ...and, here, it was patiently explained to the author how Wikipedia works concerning WP:N and WP:OR. No such user (talk) 06:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 19:53, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, nonnotable romanization system apparently made up by the page's author. —Angr (talk) 05:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete on the merits; there isn't anything reliable on which to base this article. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 14:00, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, I'm currently reverting the edits on a bunch of articles where he added the ALFB transliteration. Any help will be appreciated. Abjiklam (talk) 04:59, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think I got the last one. —Tamfang (talk) 07:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • But wrongly :). I dare not say I got it [2][3][4][5][6][7] No such user (talk) 13:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Oh, ugh, I misunderstood: I thought Abjiklam meant links to the article in question. —Tamfang (talk) 05:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.