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The result was no consensus. Star Mississippi 01:14, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
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The title was very hard to search for but apparently comedian Shang was involved. Even then, I got a ton of false positives that used the phrase "access granted" and the name "Shang" in unrelated contexts. Narrowing those down even further, all I could find on ProQuest was variants of "Shang, the host of BET's Access Granted, to do blah blah blah" or "[name of singer] also appeared on an episode of Access Granted". I tried, but I'm still utterly convinced this one fails the WP:RS test. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:14, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:14, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep This is BET's Making the Video equivalent as one of their past highlight series; the host really didn't do anything outside softball interviews or canned intros, so searching for their involvement is utterly pointless (also they're a redlink so this is a 'why bother' case), but this definitely meets N despite these series basically being just label-paid infomercials about the videos BTS. It's a proper and serviceable stub. Nate • (chatter) 19:18, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- So per your logic, why are we allowed to circumvent WP:RS? Literally all you said was "it's notable because it's notable". Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:17, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment As I said, it's a perfectly serviceable stub, and I'm loathe to delete articles when WP:ATD exists, especially for a show on a network that is incredibly nigh-uncovered to begin with here, when anything over 31 seconds on Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network is over-covered. Nate • (chatter) 02:19, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- "Perfectly serviceable" yet it's still completely unsourced. Why is it allowed exemption from WP:RS and WP:V? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:22, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment That's what AfD is for; to find sources which can establish N. I just remembered one of its episodes involved Aaliyah's shoot for "Rock the Boat" before her death and added an appropriate source because I do remember that was a very important episode. Nate • (chatter) 02:53, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment As I said, it's a perfectly serviceable stub, and I'm loathe to delete articles when WP:ATD exists, especially for a show on a network that is incredibly nigh-uncovered to begin with here, when anything over 31 seconds on Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network is over-covered. Nate • (chatter) 02:19, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:36, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:46, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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