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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to 2010 Green Bay Packers season. Not entirely sure where this should be redirecting to, feel free to alter my choice. — Joseph Fox 12:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Battles

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:ATH, and WP:NSPORT. Just because he was on the practice squad when the Packers won the Super Bowl does not make him automatically notable. Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:17, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. — Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:18, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. — Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:18, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Mankato Free Press is, in fact, "independent." It's one of the oldest daily newspapers in Minnesota (in print since 1857) serving six counties. (On what do you base your opinion that it's not independent?) In any event, Battle has also received feature article coverage in major metropolitan dailies, as noted above. As for his career coming to a "close," that may or may not prove true, but it's not relevant. All athletic careers come to a close, some sooner than others. In Battle's case, he's had a 5-year football career so far. Even if he never plays again, the extent and depth of non-trivial coverage he has received is far beyond routine coverage and is enough to satisfy WP:GNG. Cbl62 (talk) 06:07, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The player's WP:IMPACT is from being a practice squad player in the Super Bowl, and WP:BLP1E seems relevant and suggests that the article be redirected. If we exclude the two Super Bowl related sources, we see multiple sources almost exclusively from Mankato Free Press—the ABC News/Associated Press source contains only a trivial mention of Battles. However, WP:GNG expects multiple sources, but says "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability." Thus, there are insufficient sources to satisfy GNG, as there are neutrality concerns from writing his biography (outside of the Super Bowl) based predominantly on a single source. WP:MASK#Building a biography warns that "A living person's single event notability can be disguised by also including the subject's life history, such as graduating high school valedictorian or being interviewed by a local newspaper. The editor includes these events, usually accompanied with valid sources, attempting to establish a reputation for the person. Merging multiple unrelated non-notable accomplishments takes focus away from the true purpose of creating the coatrack article." WP:COATRACK suggests "in some cases where an event in a person's life is the only notable thing about them, it may make sense to only have an article on the event and not have an article on the person at all."—Bagumba (talk) 07:57, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, none of that is accurate. There are multiple independent sources. Aside from the Mankato paper (which has itself published multiple feature stories about Battles), he has also been the subject of feature articles in two of the largest metropolitan daily newspapers in the USA and a fourth newspaper as well. This also isn't a BLP, as some of the feature articles are about his four-year college career. He was, as discussed in one of the feature stories, a dominating player in his college career. Other articles are about his time with the Vikings. Some are about his 7 games with the Packers. This is not in any way, shape or form a coatrack for something else. A "coatrack article is a Wikipedia article that ostensibly discusses the nominal subject, but in reality is a cover for a tangentially related biased subject." Coatracks are designed to "purposefully to promote a particular bias," and "run against the fundamental neutral point of view policy." None of that applies here. There is no "tangentially related" subject here. Nor is there a bias being promoted. Nor is there a deviation from neutral point of view. This is an article about a notable football player, not about the Israeli-Palestine conflict or abortion. Cbl62 (talk) 20:58, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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