Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ain't Nobody

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Light After Dark. WP:NSONG states "Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article ...". This is key in this case. No editor has shown that such material exists. The one interesting piece of commentary was "and contributed to Maguire's placing on the annual BBC Sound Of... poll at number five." Though the BBC source confirms that Maguire achieved that placing, the contribution by this song is not supported by the source. Finally, the guideline indicates that chart placement indicates probable notability not definite notability and I am persuaded by the argument "a #78 chart entry for one week does not make a significant hit". I have merged the only other sourced information, about the music video. All in all I am not convinced that the arguments support the case to justify this as being a standalone article. TerriersFan (talk) 22:47, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ain't Nobody (Clare Maguire song)

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Due to a cheeky move by an editor of the very notable and much covered Chaka Khan song to be replaced by this one, this came to my attention. The single in question seems not to have properly charted anywhere (since the UK only officially uses a top 75) and the song in itself doesn't seem to be at all notable (the refs given are a bit tenuous). I'm nominating this for deletion rather than a move. --Tuzapicabit (talk) 15:31, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. It did chart at #78 in the UK - this is sourced in the article. The UK does not officially only use a top 75 - chart positions are recorded for the 200 best-selling singles I believe. Different publications simply show different extracts of the full chart - the BBC the top 40, Yahoo the top 75, etc. The track was also used in a high-profile advertising campaign by Renault.[1]--Michig (talk) 15:52, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment:From WP:Songs:
Most songs do not merit an article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for a prominent album or for the artist who wrote or prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. A separate article is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article

As I see it, this song doesn't satisfactorily meet these criteria (a #78 chart entry for one week does not make a significant hit).--Tuzapicabit (talk) 16:11, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps not. In this case, the Chaka Khan song should be at this title, with a dab hatnote pointing to Maguire's album (Light After Dark), where the relevant details about this song can be included.--Michig (talk) 16:41, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and/or merge with the album. Weak Keep at the new ___location as the song has charted. Was any justification given for moving the Chaka Khan song from this ___location? If not, my vote would be to move it back as it's safe to assume that most people looking for this song title are looking for the Khan song. Robman94 (talk) 17:30, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I love Clare Maguire and I love this song, but there ain't nobody can claim it's sufficiently notable for an article in its own right, nor that it should take precedence over the Chaka Khan song. Nonetheless, it has received sufficient coverage that someone could easily be searching for it (that's how I got here). Therefore:

Merge and redirect to the album, and move the redirect page to "Ain't Nobody (Clare Maguire song)".
Move "Ain't Nobody (Chaka Khan song)" back to "Ain't Nobody".
Create "Ain't Nobody (disambiguation)" - I notice Monica also published a song with the same title, and not forgetting Ain't Nobody Here But Us Chickens.

82.1.57.194 (talk) 14:57, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 00:12, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Song was ranked on a national music charts, which is verified by the source in the article. Onthegogo (talk) 00:10, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you saying to keep this song where it is at the root address and leave the Chaka Kahn song at the junior address? Robman94 (talk) 00:45, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Update Here's what I have done. I have moved the Clare Maguire song here: Ain't Nobody (Clare Maguire song) and I have moved the Chaka Khan song back to its original ___location at the generic address. I have also created Ain't Nobody (disambiguation). This AfD for the Clare Maguire song is still open though. Robman94 (talk) 17:27, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.