Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ari Libsker

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep. Avi 18:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - nn person, self promotion [1] --Haham hanuka 10:37, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. (Liberatore, 2006). 12:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete filmmaker with no IMDB entry. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep IMDB not authoritative for filmmakers not from USA/UK/whatever. If "Circumcision" was aired on Channel 2, he's notable. If that weren't right, would have voted delete. - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I live in Israel and I can tell that he is realy non-notable. [2] --Haham hanuka 19:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Maran Chacham - can you confirm or deny the fact of the channel 2 airing? I don't live in Israel - but I can make up my own mind, thankyouverymuch. - CrazyRussian talk/email 19:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • I don't know I'm not watching this channel. Anyway those movies were NN. --Haham hanuka 19:37, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • How many GHits spelling his name in Ivrit? - CrazyRussian talk/email 02:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • 349 [3] --Haham hanuka 08:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, and can the closing admin be sure to zap all inbound links to this page. —Xezbeth 21:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, non-notable self-promotion. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 22:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Ari is a known director. his movie about circumcision is (with neomi aviv) the most important movie about this issue. the movie was censored and aired at last in the main channel. you can google the article from maariv daily. It was a big scandal in Israel. "haham Hanuka" is very problematic witness. I ask all of you to re-consider your vote. Shmila 10:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep partcipated in the international co-production market and also a known artist [4]. Marina T. 14:01, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I an afraid that User:Shmila is a sockpuppet of User:Marina T.. --Haham hanuka 11:24, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Please either address your suspicions at RFCU - or keep them bottled up inside. - CrazyRussian talk/email 13:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not. Please ask people in Hebrew Wikipedia about mr. hanuka. Shmila 14:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haham hanuka is banned from using the Hebrew Wikipedia. gidonb 13:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• If you wish to make to make an accusation of sockpuppetry, just go to RFCU to prove so. Don't get in a rough discussion over it. I have looked over this article quite a few times, and this is quite frankly one of the toughest calls I have seen on AfD. The nominator remarks that this page is about a non-notable person and possible vanity. I actually was curious about the comments made about the nominator and was quite surprised by what I had found. On Haham hanuka's talk page there are warnings regarding: personal attacks and just a bad history. Haham also accuses many users of being sockpuppets without any discussion or anything or pursuring the issue further[5]. This user does not seem to have what could appear to be a clean history involving pages of this topic or nature[6]. That is my rationale for thinking that this is a possible bad faith nom. Now back in regards to this article, I do believe that there is enough notability for this person, and I really don't think that vanity exists. The subject of the article has his importance asserted and it appears that importance, albeit not a grand scale, is notable enough for Wikipedia. The article states that he directed two documentaries, helped to form an academy, and co-edited a notable magazine. That seems to satisfy notability. I believe we can look at the expandability of this article and how it can endure. It can grow, and still not be a a crystal ball since the man has appeared to done enough for notability. Keep per the fact that creating two documentaries that went on Israeli television and were featured, thus making subject notable. Yanksox 21:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, see the nominator's block log. Yanksox 21:41, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I am unable to verify the nominator's claim that this is self-promotion. Verifiable notability has been asserted by User:CrazyRussian and others, and only if these are checked and found to be false (I myself lack the ability to check) should the article be deleted. –Dicty (T/C) 11:13, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  247 results on Google in English, 349 in Hebrew. This article was written by Nimrod Kamer who is a friend of him. He writes many vanity articles on himself, his friends and his "films". --Haham hanuka 15:47, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  I am unable to verify your claim that it was written by Nimrod Kamer with the information publicly accessible to me. If you can shine further light on this matter, please do so. Furthermore, even were your claim correct, I fail to see how an article on Ari Libsker written by Nimrod Kamer can constitute self-promotion. Lastly, the number of Google hits is not a notability criterion; rather, the governing notability criterion here is clearly expressed by User:CrazyRussian above. –Dicty (T/C) 17:24, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep going solely on that Crazy Russian's word. He better be good for it. RFerreira 03:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.