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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:46, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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self publishing company that gives no indication of notability. this is a print on demand service, which are essentially nonnotable in and of themselves, as their works are rarely notable and they have no input into the editing process, thus no judgement as to what is inherently worthwhile to publish Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:44, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 20:19, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 20:19, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Self-publishing can be notable: Category:Self-publishing companies, Category:Self-published authors. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 21:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Found some sources that Obama's half-brother published a book through Aventine. Added two sources (Post and LA Times) but there are many more, it received national coverage in top papers. Also NY Times mentioned it in a profile of DIY publishing houses. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 21:31, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Who's cares about Obama's half-brother, or even Obama come to think of it? Notability is not inherited. - Sitush (talk) 03:46, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 20:18, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - if the consensus is that an author doesn't necessarily inherit notability from his/her books, it's unlikely that a publishing company would. Even if the books in question were considered notable, and were in turn considered a product of the subject company, "not every manufacturer of a notable product is itself notable". I think the standard to apply here is WP:CORPDEPTH - the type of products they produce is irrelevant, really. I don't see "significant coverage" of the company itself so I'm not convinced it could be considered notable. Stalwart111 (talk) 03:43, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KTC (talk) 00:28, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED. They do not inherit notability from a guy who might or might not inherit notability from a guy who is his half-brother, never mind that the half-brother just happens to be the most powerful man in the world. Qworty (talk) 04:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Does not appear to be notable at all and the references do not directly discuss this publisher, but only one book published by them. LogicalCreator (talk) 09:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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