Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aviv String Quartet
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) NotAGenious (talk) 13:12, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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self-referenced; tagged for notability since 2018. - Altenmann >talk 08:22, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Israel. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 11:50, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:NMUSIC per the following significant coverage in reliable sources:
- Kozinn, Allan (2007-10-23). "A Substitute Steps Up, an Ensemble Settles In". The New York Times. (Concert review)
- Adams, Martin (2000-05-12). "Aviv String Quartet Masonic Hall, Molesworth Street, Dublin". Irish Times. (Concert review)
- Dervan, Michael (2001-06-08). "Aviv String Quartet Law Society, Blackhall Place, Dublin". Irish Times. (Concert review)
- Ashley, Tim (2004-01-07). "Aviv String Quartet". The Guardian. Retrieved 2024-01-11. (Concert review)
- There's more, but that's more than enough to establish notability. Jfire (talk) 03:47, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Concert reviews are not significant coverage. They say almost nothing about ensemble itself. - Altenmann >talk 18:31, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree. Concert reviews often contain analysis and critical commentary, which does constitute significant coverage, particularly in the genre of classical music, where concert reviews are one of the primary venues for music criticism. Here's an excerpt from the Guardian review:
Aviv String Quartet, founded in 1997, is rapidly emerging as one of today's finest chamber ensembles. Rich, warm and distinctive in sound, their playing combining technical exactitude with instinctive emotional intensity. Their methodology is often striking. With many quartets, the first violinist tends to be the principal figure. Here, however, the second violinist Evgenia Epshtein and viola player Shuli Waterman are predominant, anchoring their performances in rhythmic and harmonic density and gradually prising the music open from within, while the leader, Sergey Ostrovsky and cellist Rachel Mercer weave gracious tendrils of sound around them.
- Not only is this significant coverage, the fact that this ensemble has concert reviews in major general-audience newspapers such as The Guardian and New York Times is strong evidence that it will have also been covered in specialist publications such as The Strad -- and hey, look: [1], [2]. Jfire (talk) 20:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- What you cited is an advert. The only fact is that it was founded in 1977. - Altenmann >talk 03:35, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- The excerpt I posted was written by Tim Ashley, a classical and opera critic for The Guardian. It is not an advertisement. Jfire (talk) 03:44, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- What you cited is an advert. The only fact is that it was founded in 1977. - Altenmann >talk 03:35, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree. Concert reviews often contain analysis and critical commentary, which does constitute significant coverage, particularly in the genre of classical music, where concert reviews are one of the primary venues for music criticism. Here's an excerpt from the Guardian review:
- Concert reviews are not significant coverage. They say almost nothing about ensemble itself. - Altenmann >talk 18:31, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Examples provided by Jfire are sufficient to establish notability. Marokwitz (talk) 21:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Substantial coverage through critical reviews. Also, the intro does not contain a valid reason to delete. Instead of after the fact inisting that a critical review is an advertisement, why not do a solid BEFORE ahead of nomination? It's not the case that there are insufficient AfD nominations! WP:SNOW outside and here. gidonb (talk) 09:36, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: easily meets GNG. A search shows up plenty more concert reviews and other good sources, but those above already meet GNG. Additionally, I found this quite substantial programming of Shostakovich quartets on BBC Radio 3, which aired the quartet's recordings over several days on a national radio station. Schminnte [talk to me] 10:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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