Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Back seat driver

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. WjBscribe 13:38, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Back seat driver

Well known phenomenon; however, unless some reliable sources can be found, this doesn't meet Wikipedia:Attribution or Wikipedia:Verifiability (whichever of these two policies we're using today). There will of course be brief mentions of this in various magazine articles and books and so on, but I don't believe anything extensive enough has been written to base an article on. Xyzzyplugh 17:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Kind of the "Steak and a Blowjob" problem; many of us know it's around, but good luck finding citable sources. Shame because everybody has had a back seat driver before ;) --Auto^{(talk / contribs)} 19:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki per WP:NOT#DICTIONARY. Madman bum and angel 19:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note that this has already been copied to Wiktionary, so no point in doing that again. See wikt:Transwiki:Back seat driver. --Xyzzyplugh 19:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I have added a number of inline references, including --amazingly--one from People's Daily. The term is also used in other senses, and it may at some point be necessary to divide the article. There are now 12 references, several from incontestably Reliable Sources, such as the Economist. DGG 20:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I have added Category:Slang. It belongs. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 20:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Changed category to Category:English idioms. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 16:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(Very) weak keep. This is a tough one. Before the recent edits, I would have voted delete per Auto without even thinking twince about it and I'm still not too happy with the article as it is. Wikipedia isn't Urbandictionary (and it does feel like this might be just where the article is going, especially with some of the more trivia-ish links) and the article does require quite a bit of clean but as it stands now, I don't see any major policy violations. -- Seed 2.0 00:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - even with the added references, I fail to see how the article is any more that a dictionary definition with some identification of where the phrase is used. -- Whpq 17:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. My ex-girlfriend had a "back seat driver's manual" in the back seat of her car, I forget who published it. RFerreira 01:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. One of the most notable phrases of its kind, and now has enough sources to allow its existance. Academic Challenger 04:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Although this slang term appears to be covered in sources, it still does not belong here: see WP:WINAD. Sandstein 06:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.