Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bayraktar Mini UAV

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 01:43, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bayraktar Mini UAV

Vanity / advert. Originally prodded, but removed by another user because the owner of the company mentioned is of some notability. That may be true, but this page is pure advertisement, and after visiting the company website, I'm not convinced that this article should be kept. Perhaps someone with a better knowledge of the industry could comment. Tijuana Brass 00:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete ad. the.crazy.russian ^{vent here} 03:07, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is a keep folks. I note that AFD tag has either been removed or not placed (which may not be appropriate) - but article has been rewritten to remove advertising. 47 specific google hits (not including 2 wiki hits) V i rtual Steve 08:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per *Keep. --S iva1979^{Talk to me} 14:08, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per original prod reason: "Advertisement submitted by the inventor on a device that no sources has ever heard about. Fails Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:No original research and other Wikipedia policies and guidelines too numerous to list here. Please remove image and vanity edits to Unmanned aerial vehicle as well." --Perfecto 15:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- PS. As per talk page, submitter/inventor denies he is the noted executive, so Georgewilliamherbert's unprodding turns out wrong as well.
Keep per VirtualSteve. Moe Aboulkheir 15:12, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Steve, Siva1979, Moe Aboulkheir, remove wikipedia mirrors and baykarmakina.com pages from the 47 hits -- guess how many are left? --Perfecto 15:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - By the way, while the rewrite did help it to appear more legit (which still doesn't address some of the problems), the second paragraph is a word for word copy from the company website. Tijuana Brass 16:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep We should delete every other UAV description by the same token since all are advertisements!! take a look at [1] or all other UAV entries.Poor 00:43, 16 March 2006 (UTC) (NOTE: This newly-created user has no other edits.)[reply]
Delete 47 google hits pretty much defines 'non-notable'.-AKMask 19:46, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dear commentators, I have looked to the other uav examples [2] and changed the article content. I am trying to make the necessary changes according to the comments. --Haluk 19:57, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please take a look at this uav [3] as well in which there is not any single reference. I did put references inside. --Haluk 20:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify a point here, you do not 'own' the article, you have released the text you contributed under the Gnu Free Documentation License, which gives everyone the expressed right to take, modify, use, distribute and even sell the text, so long as they also give those same rights to whoever ends up with it. -AKMask 21:05, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, AKMask, wrong expression, i erased that part.--Haluk 21:47, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No worries at all :) Although it is considered good form not to delete things from these kinds of pages and strike them out instead. I know, I know, steep learning curve, but your adjusting remarkably well :) -AKMask 21:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aladin's existence is verified by this Herald Tribune article. Several news outlets confirm that the German army bought 115 of them last year. This is what Wikipedia:Verifiability means. --Perfecto 03:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I consider aircraft in production, even UAVs, to be inherently notable. moink 09:27, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per VirtualSteve/Poor/moink. Lambiam 13:01, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not notable, but probably could be merged into a "list of UAVs" article or something. -- infinity0 15:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.