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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Sam Sing! 13:56, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
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The principal claim of notability of the subject of this article is that he is leader of the Indian National Congress, which is demonstrably not the case and some or all of the article is apparrently a WP:HOAX. This article suggests someone of this name does exist as a political candidate but there is no evidence he meets the notability requirements of WP:POLITICIAN. RichardOSmith (talk) 13:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk 19:53, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk 19:54, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Keep -I don't see any Hoax thing on there. If you see any, please edit that out. Subject may meet GNG and POLITICIAN #3 inclusion criteria. Sources, -[1], [2], [3], [4], [5], more. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 23:02, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- @RichardOSmith: -Just edited the article a little and added some reliable sources, please take a look and re-assess the article (I hope nomination concerns has been addressed). If you see any problem, please point them out here. If not, please withdraw your nomination. Thank you. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 23:31, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for helping with the article. However, the worst of it - the claim that he is "leader of the Indian National Congress" - was left in place and the {{cn}} tag removed from it. If that claim were true then of course he would be notable (and there would be a heck of a lot more third party coverage about him), but it isn't because the leader of the INC is Sonia Gandhi (See President of the Indian National Congress). We need to establish not whether the subject may meet WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN but whether they actually do. WP:POLITICIAN is, I think, easily dealt with: he is an unelected candidate with apparently no "international, national or sub-national office" so I don't believe that any of the specific requirements are met, which leaves only the GNG. Of the five references you cited above, three are about his candidature in a forthcoming election and as that is not notable per WP:POLITICIAN then the coverage is run of the mill and also non-notable. The remaining two are sound-bites about onion prices rather than significant coverage of the man so, again, suggest no notability to me. The remaining claim of notability in the article is that he has held posts within two agricultural marketing boards but as the boards themselves don't appear to be notable then I don't believe the posts held are either. So I see no evidence that inclusion guidelines are met. I am naturally inclined towards inclusion and would have felt no imperative to nominate were it not for the blatant untruth in the first sentence about being leader of the INC. That calls into question the reliability of the entire article and, to a lesser extent, whether it is merely a promotional piece created at the time of an election. Wikipedia is not a repository of everything and bad data is worse than no data at all. Therefore I still believe this article should be deleted. RichardOSmith (talk) 08:16, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- Ugh!! Do you happen to ever read the WP:POLITICIAN guideline? -See #3. Runofthemill is irrelevant here. He contented the election in 1998 and again in 2015 and have headed the multiple State Government bodies and have received multiple independent coverage for. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 10:48, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for helping with the article. However, the worst of it - the claim that he is "leader of the Indian National Congress" - was left in place and the {{cn}} tag removed from it. If that claim were true then of course he would be notable (and there would be a heck of a lot more third party coverage about him), but it isn't because the leader of the INC is Sonia Gandhi (See President of the Indian National Congress). We need to establish not whether the subject may meet WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN but whether they actually do. WP:POLITICIAN is, I think, easily dealt with: he is an unelected candidate with apparently no "international, national or sub-national office" so I don't believe that any of the specific requirements are met, which leaves only the GNG. Of the five references you cited above, three are about his candidature in a forthcoming election and as that is not notable per WP:POLITICIAN then the coverage is run of the mill and also non-notable. The remaining two are sound-bites about onion prices rather than significant coverage of the man so, again, suggest no notability to me. The remaining claim of notability in the article is that he has held posts within two agricultural marketing boards but as the boards themselves don't appear to be notable then I don't believe the posts held are either. So I see no evidence that inclusion guidelines are met. I am naturally inclined towards inclusion and would have felt no imperative to nominate were it not for the blatant untruth in the first sentence about being leader of the INC. That calls into question the reliability of the entire article and, to a lesser extent, whether it is merely a promotional piece created at the time of an election. Wikipedia is not a repository of everything and bad data is worse than no data at all. Therefore I still believe this article should be deleted. RichardOSmith (talk) 08:16, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- @RichardOSmith: -Just edited the article a little and added some reliable sources, please take a look and re-assess the article (I hope nomination concerns has been addressed). If you see any problem, please point them out here. If not, please withdraw your nomination. Thank you. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 23:31, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - This article meets the general notability guidelines and Politicians. Hoax contents/ references can be removed. — CutestPenguinHangout 09:12, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- It would help me understand your rationale - and potentially sway my opinion - if you could state the reasons you think the notability guidelines are met. RichardOSmith (talk) 09:20, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I have removed the claim that he is leader of the Indian National Congress from the article. RichardOSmith (talk) 09:32, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- You should have instead fix it. I made it, "member of the Indian National Congress". Anupmehra -Let's talk! 10:48, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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