- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Consensus is clear, and no valid keep rationale is offered--Bearian is incorrect in asserting that WP:BAND holds that touring nationally is sufficient to attain notability per the guideline. Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 05:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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This was an unreferenced biography also flagged with a notability query since Sept 2008 (soon after the article was created). Consequently it was proposed for deletion yesterday. An IP editor contested the Prod and added a reference showing the subject as a sideman on a record. That is insufficient to meet the notability guidelines for musicians, hence bringing it to AfD to propose Deletion. Note that (1) the subject is also a real-estate businessman, but again seems not to meet Notability in that sphere; and (2) Google brings up another person of the same name (a film director/editor). AllyD (talk) 21:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Basically a session musician. Fails WP:N. Pburka (talk) 00:03, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete while insufficiently notable (real-esate - music - etc) doesn't meet our standards for WP:V Dusti*poke* 00:43, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:52, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:52, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. My initial problem was finding even a single reliable source to show he even exists in a huge pile of Ghits about an oncologist, a judge, a murderer from Seattle, and various other Brian Garys. I found his own tour page that seems to indicate that he's toured nationally, which is enough for musician's notability. I just can't wade through the 83,000 Ghits to find a better source. Bearian (talk) 20:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Doesn't the touring need to involve notable reviewed concerts and critical discussion of the subject's contribution (#4)? I'm curious, as if it just comes down to a past of touring, then just about every past member of every past band would surely meet WP:MUSICBIO? Coming back to this particular discussion, it is possible that performing in the bands for multiple musicians (Money, Akins, Davis) might meet #6, but that maybe depends on an interpretation of ensemble member vs backing musician? AllyD (talk) 20:36, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I don't think it should be redirected. --Anna O'Leary (talk) 11:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No secondary sources provided in this BLP of a person who may or may not be a session musician. Abductive (reasoning) 04:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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