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The result was delete. MelanieN (talk) 18:10, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
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WP:BLP of a music video director, which simply asserts his existence and lists his videography without making any claim of notability that would pass WP:CREATIVE, and which is sourced entirely to listings in user-generated directory databases and streaming copies of his videos with no evidence of any reliable source coverage about him shown at all. As always, a director is not automatically entitled to have a Wikipedia article just because he exists; media coverage must be shown to get him over CREATIVE for a quantifiable achievement beyond merely existing as a working professional. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 19:43, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. I could find no proof that mvdbase.com is based on user-generated content; and VH1.com definitely isn't (except for forums, etc). At any rate, this is kind of jumping the gun; you could have at least started with opening a thread at WP:RSN. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 21:13, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
- Nobody, and certainly not me, said that VH1 was USERG. But what the VH1 links are is streaming copies of the music videos — see above, where I said "and streaming copies of his videos" — which is not the kind of sourcing it takes to confer notability for directing music videos. A person does not automatically get a Wikipedia article just because it's possible to verify on the web that their work exists — a person has to be the subject of reliable source media content being written or published or broadcast about them to get an article on that basis, not merely the creator of a streaming video that's cited as the "source" for itself. Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Just having listings of the music videos he directed is not enough. We need articles that say something about him, which we lack.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:48, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. --Cameron11598 (Talk) 04:18, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete I agree that just being verified as a director on multiple databases, whether user-generated or not, is not enough by itself. There are are no independent references or sources provided that indicate notability. ShelbyMarion (talk) 20:35, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete, congrats, he exists. that doesn't mean he is notable. InsertCleverPhraseHere 00:41, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as nothing at all actually insinuating solid independent notability. SwisterTwister talk 07:32, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
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