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The result was delete and redirect to BASE jumping. The S in BASE stands for "Span (a bridge or arch)", so it works.-Wafulz 14:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Article and content fails WP:N. No references exist to show notability. :: maelgwntalk 07:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete. In addition to providing no sources, the article seems to suggest that bridge jumping is performed exclusively by students of Cambridge on this one particular river, which is absurd. -Juansmith 07:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, as described, the practice necessarily involves involves a punt and, according to the punting article, "today there are probably more punts on the Cam than on any other river in England". Espresso Addict 07:51, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge. I can vouch for the truth of most of what's here, though it used to be called bridge hopping, back in the day. It's been going on since time immemorial, so there are almost certainly reliable sources eg [1]. Perhaps the sensible route is to merge with List of bridges in Cambridge and/or the Cambridge section of Punt (boat)? Espresso Addict 07:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I would agree that it has been going on since time immemorial, but it seems absurd (and arrogant) on behalf of the article's author to think that Cambridge students are the only ones engaging in it. I was once on a guided rafting trip on the Provo River in Utah, and our guide hopped out of the raft, over a small bridge, and back in. I've witnessed it on other occasions as well. If the activity is genuinely popular at Cambridge, then perhaps it bears mentioning in the Cambridge article. But it hardly satisfies the notability requirement by itself.-Juansmith 23:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletions. -- Espresso Addict 08:03, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. After researching on Google, I think it completely fails Wikipedia:Notability. To me, it sounds like a small activity that a group of students from Cambridge like doing to amuse themselves, which is of no significance or importance to others. Lradrama 11:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete and redirect to BASE jumping, which is where most people would expect it to be, or suicide. 132.205.44.5 21:34, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- If this is deleted, it should be redirected to BASE jumping, which includes jumping off bridges. --NE2 21:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok do you have any references to say that BASE jumping is refered to as bridge jumping. AFAIK its not a common term to describe this. It may involve jumping off bridges but its not described by the term 'bridge jumping'. :: maelgwntalk 02:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete — and redirect to base jumping. The article in itself surely fails WP:N as it seems to me only the students at Cambridge University participate in the activity. *Cremepuff222* 21:53, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to BASE jumping as the S stands for span as in bridge or arch. There seems to be no indications that the Cambridge variant is particularly notable. Alternatively, there do seem to be some sources [2]. Capitalistroadster 03:30, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep This is a well known past-time in Cambridge. Here is one reference to it from the Cambridge University website (search for "low bridges").[3] Perhaps an improvement would be to take away some of the Cambridge references and make it more general. This is certainly no more to do with BASEjumping than bungee jumping is. Capitalistroadster's reference relates to people jumping from a bridge into water. If (s)he reads the article properly (s)he'll see that this wiki relates to climbing from a punt (gondola type boat) onto a bridge, over it, and down the other side back onto the punt. Nothing to do with jumping into the water as per the news article linked chris_white_22 13:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Because it is a random activity of some students at a school, with only a passing reference in 2 article presented here as evidence of notability. A mention at the school website is not an independent and reliable source and fails WP:A for the purposes of showing notability. The title should be something more like Bridge-hopping at Cambridge as it was described in the Times article in passing as cited above by Espresso Addict, because the present title is not descriptive of the subject of the article and is misleading. Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day. It might deserve a brief mention in the article about the school. DO NOT REDIRECT TO BASE JUMPING That activity involves jumping off a high place with a parachute. This article is about climbing from a little boat onto a very low bridge and then climbing back into the boat, for whatever reason. It is about as nonencyclopedic as an article about rollerskating down a sloping sidewalk at a particular college or about sliding down the bannister at another school. Edison 19:48, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, how many places are there where you are able to do this activity? Perhaps this might be better as a sub-section in the page on Buildering? As much as I'm in favour of keeping the article, I would rather that reference was made to it in another article than lose the information forever. As written in the Buildering article, there's not a lot of written information on it - this doesn't make it unverifiable, just harder to verify. There are certainly three videos that show "Bridge Jumping" happening, and the only ones I can find that show people "Bridge Jumping" in this fashion (from a punt, over a bridge and back down) are in Cambridge. [4], [5] and [6] Rather than ridiculing wiki's, perhaps people trying to moderate (all of us) could try to actaully go out and research things we've not heard of...and see if they truly are verifiable, rather than just write off a half-finished page. I know that blogs are not great places to cite - but this one references a "tradition" of bridge jumping [7] and has entries dating back three years. There are many more [8], [9]. Trip Adviosr [10] also mentions the sport on it's Cambridge guide page. chris_white_22 21:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- One of the Cambridge roof climbing guides cited in the buildering article might well discuss bridge hopping, as the Bridge of Sighs bridge hop is a well-known climbing challenge. If so it would verify the long history -- does anyone have access to copies to check? Espresso Addict 09:22, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, how many places are there where you are able to do this activity? Perhaps this might be better as a sub-section in the page on Buildering? As much as I'm in favour of keeping the article, I would rather that reference was made to it in another article than lose the information forever. As written in the Buildering article, there's not a lot of written information on it - this doesn't make it unverifiable, just harder to verify. There are certainly three videos that show "Bridge Jumping" happening, and the only ones I can find that show people "Bridge Jumping" in this fashion (from a punt, over a bridge and back down) are in Cambridge. [4], [5] and [6] Rather than ridiculing wiki's, perhaps people trying to moderate (all of us) could try to actaully go out and research things we've not heard of...and see if they truly are verifiable, rather than just write off a half-finished page. I know that blogs are not great places to cite - but this one references a "tradition" of bridge jumping [7] and has entries dating back three years. There are many more [8], [9]. Trip Adviosr [10] also mentions the sport on it's Cambridge guide page. chris_white_22 21:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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