Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/British and French declaration of war on Germany
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Clearly the consensus is to keep at least an article about the UK declaration. Moving (and perhaps splitting) the article can be resolved outside of AfD. RL0919 (talk) 05:50, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
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Britain and France did not declare war jointly. The reference used in the lead does not support the claim that it is used for. DuncanHill (talk) 01:33, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. DuncanHill (talk) 01:33, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. DuncanHill (talk) 01:33, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Move to United Kingdom declaration of war on Germany (1939)—that's what the article is mostly about. France declaration of war on Germany (1939) occurred on the same day, but was a separate event. The British and French articles will have different information on national/internal politics leading up to the war. buidhe 16:52, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Comment That seems like a reasonable idea. DuncanHill (talk) 16:58, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Support as nominator. This BBC article about the declaration of war says Chamberlain broadcast at 11:15, after the expiry of Britain's 11:00 deadline, and then goes on to say France presented her ultimatum at 12:30, to expire at 17:00, sometime after Chamberlain's broadcast. DuncanHill (talk) 01:36, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Both countries declared war the same day, although not exactly jointly. The sources combine the declarations of the two countries, for instance History.com, BBC, The Holocaust Museum, United Press and The Atlantic magazine. I think it's suitable for Wikipedia to combine the two declarations. Binksternet (talk) 02:24, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Comment The title implies there was a single declaration of war encompassing both France and Britain, which is obviously false. Those aren't terribly good sources, and the BBC one, as I pointed out, makes it clear that the French declaration cannot have coincided with the British. DuncanHill (talk) 02:31, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep and Move to United Kingdom declaration of war on Germany (1939). Notable topic but should have a title more accurately reflecting the content.--Staberinde (talk) 17:19, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. It should either be moved, as suggested by Buidhe, to narrow its scope to the UK alone or else to a plural title to clearly indicate that there were two separate declarations of war. I do think treating them together in a single article is admissible. Srnec (talk) 02:30, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 10:43, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 10:43, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- Move to United Kingdom declaration of war on Germany (1939) On the assumption that is what the article is supposed to be about. Actually, it says very little about what a reader would expect to find in the article, except for the text of the declaration, which would be better in Wikisource. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:52, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- Move to British declaration of war on Germany (1939) and purge of mentions of France. I am not sure of the precise events over the French declaration, but Chamberlain did not make one for them. Peterkingiron (talk) 00:06, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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