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The result was delete. ✗plicit 03:44, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:FILMMAKER. Awards won are not major. IMDb would indicate WP:TOOSOON. Main claim to notability seems tied up with Swede Caroline, released only this year. Only remotely significant coverage about the person from the cited sources is the second one – a blog interview. An online search shows many sites that mention the subject's name, but they say nothing more about him. SuperMarioMan (Talk) 18:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and United Kingdom. SuperMarioMan (Talk) 18:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I'm an intern working for the studio itself (specifically Brook Driver). I apologize about the source misinformation. I'm doing my best to improve it, but I'm still incredibly new to this internship and even Wikipedia editing itself. I request more time for it to get fixed up. We're all very busy, so it will take some time, but it will be improved. If anything, some tips on how to improve it would be fantastic. Thanks! MNLewis21 (talk) 19:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @MNLewis21: to avoid deletion, the article needs to show evidence of significant coverage of Driver himself – not Deadbeat Films or other affiliated topics – in reliable, independent sources. None of the sources currently cited in the article meets that requirement, as they are either non-independent (e.g. deadbeatfilms.co.uk), blogs (e.g. blog.finaldraft.com; see WP:BLOGS), or trivial mentions of Driver (e.g. deadline.com). Unfortunately, articles that are started through conflict-of-interest editing, as this one apparently was, are very unlikely to meet Wikipedia's topic notability and sourcing requirements, so usually end up being deleted. SuperMarioMan (Talk) 20:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- I do very much appreciate your help and clarifications. If anything, I'll be backing these up and, if possible, we can start fresh. MNLewis21 (talk) 16:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello MNLewis21 , it definitely doesn't work that way here as you thought. Gabriel (……?) 17:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I do very much appreciate your help and clarifications. If anything, I'll be backing these up and, if possible, we can start fresh. MNLewis21 (talk) 16:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @MNLewis21: to avoid deletion, the article needs to show evidence of significant coverage of Driver himself – not Deadbeat Films or other affiliated topics – in reliable, independent sources. None of the sources currently cited in the article meets that requirement, as they are either non-independent (e.g. deadbeatfilms.co.uk), blogs (e.g. blog.finaldraft.com; see WP:BLOGS), or trivial mentions of Driver (e.g. deadline.com). Unfortunately, articles that are started through conflict-of-interest editing, as this one apparently was, are very unlikely to meet Wikipedia's topic notability and sourcing requirements, so usually end up being deleted. SuperMarioMan (Talk) 20:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Insufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG, WP:NBIO, WP:NDIRECTOR. I might be open to draftifying if others are, since this is probably a WP:TOOSOON case, but I am concerned that a draft hanging out there would be too tempting for a conflicted editor who doesn't show understanding of our policies. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Swede Caroline: Some coverage for the short film that mentions this person, I don't find much of anything otherwise. Not terribly notable, yet. TOOSOON Oaktree b (talk) 00:38, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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