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The result was Delete without prejudice due to lack of reliable sources. --Myles Long 00:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Buck the World (3rd nomination)

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A recent AFD, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Get Bucked, included the articles Get Bucked and Buck the World, and reached consensus to delete. However, the article Buck the World was not properly tagged as part of the group nomination, and the editors of the article seem not to have known about the AFD. Therefore, I have undeleted the article and re-nominated it, to avoid the appearance of bias. The primary concern in the prior AFD was lack of reliable sources for this not-yet-released album. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-11 07:36Z

  • Delete per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Get Bucked (lack of reliable sources) without prejudice against recreation once said sources can be provided. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 10:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please don't delete this article as it is an album that will be coming to stores soon. It is important to keep. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.10.106.77 (talk • contribs) 01:11, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per previous AfD. Considering the only source is a link to MySpace, the article should be deleted if reliable sources cannot be found. auburnpilot talk 01:55, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't Delete its a CD by a big name rapper--Bucs10 02:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for reasons discussed previously: no reliable sources. To those who don't want to see this deleted, use this extended window to cite some. (jarbarf) 19:57, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep What is purpose of deleting this page when the album is scheduled to be released sometime in the spring. This album is confirmed on Young Buck's own [website.http://www.young-buck.com/main/default.aspx] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kevin82485 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]
    • What verifiable information can be obtained from the young-buck.com website? Forgive me if I don't find his personal website and myspace page to be reliable, given that the working title has changed at least three times since it was announced, and the release date may as well shift on every page load. This is a perfect example of when not to use primary sources; when the album is released or there is some concrete information published about it from a third party we can create a reliable Wikipedia article at that time. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Rumor. Official release date and the whole project would probably be pushed back due the recent conflicts within Interscope regarding G-Unit sales. It's not a coincidence that there's no tracklist 1 month before the retail.Lajbi Holla @ me 12:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Wikipedia is not a rumor mill, and everything here is unreliable speculation at best. RFerreira 07:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Album will be out in march. The album advance is available for download.
  • Strong Keep. I do have a reliable source that says the album will come out March 20. [1]. Yes, the album title has changed several times, but not since September. And by the way Can't sleep, clown will eat me, by your logic, the whole Category:Upcoming albums should be deleted. Bottom line, the personal website/myspace ARE verifiable sources. Tom Danson 18:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • by the way, we're tied right now, so any future vote should make a difference. Tom Danson 18:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Wait, so now, according to the link you provided, the album is being released on March 13, 2007? That's funny, because the Wikipedia article has advertised a date of March 20, 2007 going on several weeks. I agree that these sites have proven themselves as unreliable sources. We should wait until the album is released given the uncertainty surrounding this article. If other articles in the upcoming albums category have these same sourcing problems, we should delete them too. (jarbarf) 18:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • No, it says March 20. And you should pay attention to the upcoming album template, beacuse it says "Information on this album may change dramatically as the album approaches its release date. Personally, I think we should lighten up, and see the artist pages as reliable (If you can't trust the artist, who can you trust?) Tom Danson 18:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • If the closing administrator decides this should be kept so be it, I just want to go on record that I'm less than impressed with the sources that have been cited thus far. If I return to a cited source tomorrow to find that everything I read the day before has substantially changed, I don't consider that to be a "reliable" source. (jarbarf) 22:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • I just realized that the source you cited, gunitworld.com, distinctly refers to itself as an "unofficial site" in the title bar. Why should we give any credence to this fansite, and on what basis do you find it to be reliable? (jarbarf) 23:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • '"Strong Keep." This page gets updated every day now with new information, without this page and many other pages like it in the rap industry, fans would not have a lot of info to get buzzed about. Even if it is sometimes proven false, encyclopedias are always updating and changing, and wikipedia is no different. Strong keep!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.70.166.119 (talk) 06:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]
  • JARBARF YOU NEED TO LIGHTEN UP. Stop letting your hate for Rap Music and the associated industry influence your decisions on articles. This album is coming, the songs are all done so why in the world should wikipedia not have an article. Ridiculous.JTaylorCU
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