Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Capitale-Nationale

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep per WP:SNOW. Real places such as Canadian provincial regions are inherently notable, and having the wrong title is not a valid rationale for deletion. Nominator is welcome to use WP:RM to hold a straw poll on the proper title. Non-admin closure. --Dhartung | Talk 05:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Capitale-Nationale

Article has a POV, non-english title. No references to prove this place exists. Delete GreenJoe 02:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Here's one reference proving it exists, as this is the official term used by the Quebec government, this is the proper title as well. Kesac (talk) 02:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep -see www.capitale-nationale.gouv.qc.ca which is the external link listed at the bottom of the article. An official government website is sufficient proof to me that the district exists. It is the official title of the district according to the provincial government so it is what the article should be called. By your argument we shouldn't have an article called National Assembly of Quebec since that is arguably POV as well. French placenames and titles are acceptable if there is no accepted English language equivalent. See, for example Parti Québécois, Union Nationale, Trois-Rivières, Action Démocratique, Val-d'Or etc. I hope you're not going to suggest we rename those articles Quebec Party, National Union, Three Rivers, Democratic Action and Gold Valley:). Reggie Perrin (talk) 02:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- See WP:WAX. GreenJoe 02:45, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - See Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#Use_English specifically "If no name can be shown to be widely accepted in English, use the local official name." Unlike WP:WAX, this happens to be policy. Capitale-nationale is the "local official name" and I see no evidence of a widely accepted English language equivalent. Reggie Perrin (talk) 02:52, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - For Canada specific naming conventions, see WP:CSG#French names. As per these guidelines and agreed by everyone here, it's a clear case of keep, without a reason for deletion or moving.--Boffob (talk) 05:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Just in case you want to move there, here's another [1].--Slp1 (talk) 02:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It may be POV, having been renamed that by the PQ, but it is the official name of the region and appears to be the generally used name, even in English. DoubleBlue (Talk) 02:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletion discussions. -- DoubleBlue (Talk) 03:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The most authoritative reference for place names in Quebec is the Commission de toponymie. Its web site includes a listing for the region at http://www.toponymie.gouv.qc.ca/ct/topos/carto.asp?Speci=361817&Latitude=47,36666&Longitude=-71,3&Zoom=1700 It is also referred to by its number (Region 03), and a Google search shows several listings which refer to the region number. --Eastmain (talk) 03:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep, real place, verified to exist. JIP | Talk 04:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep, it's an administrative region of Quebec, they all have their own articles. And, as far as I know, the name dates back to the Union Nationale days, long before the Parti Québécois and separation issues. The title of the article follows the naming conventions as well.--Boffob (talk) 04:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, After verification, as an administrative region, the name dates back to 1999. Either way, it's the name for it, and that's no reason to delete.--Boffob (talk) 04:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.