Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Captured! by Robots

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:56, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Captured! by Robots

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Aside from some minor coverage, the group does not pass WP:NBAND. Also, since the band has recently got added to Metal Archives it makes the need for a Wikipedia page even less nessesary. All the info is better / more neatly detailed over there (although I dont know if this carries any extra weight). I wasn't able to find any sources that make this page passable. Second Skin (talk) 16:20, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• CommentI've had my concerns about this novelty act article for a long time, and nothing substantial has changed since I tagged much if it as failing verification two years ago. I'll see what I can dig up on it but I seem to remember that I did not find much when I looked last time. Note that the existence of coverage of the group elsewhere is certainly not grounds for deletion of the article. If we followed that reasoning Wikipedia would have no articles at all. Wikipedia does not generate material, we simply report what other sources say about subjects. Meters (talk) 19:17, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • And the Metal Archives appears to be a user-generated site, and so is not a reliable source. Meters (talk) 19:35, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Found one good, recent ref https://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/captured-by-robots-emerges-as-a-political-grindcore-band/Content?oid=19153637 Not sufficient in itself but contributes towards NBAND criterion 1. Only likely other criterion group could pass is 5, but all albums except most recent are self-released so does not pass. Meters (talk) 20:08, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • And another ref covering the recent change from pure novelty act to grind core https://www.dallasobserver.com/music/jack-white-may-retreat-with-the-raconteurs-but-hes-still-a-standout-performer-11775551 https://www.dallasobserver.com/music/jay-vance-frontman-of-captured-by-robots-on-how-he-turned-his-novelty-robot-band-into-a-serious-one-10081744 Meters (talk) 20:20, 11 October 2019 (UTC) URL corrected 19:37, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Did I say metal archives is a "reliable source"? All I said was it's essentially the same thing Wikipedia is, and as such, makes a article on here less necessary Second Skin (talk) 07:00, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:36, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My comment that it was not reliable was simply to point out that we cannot use that site as a ref for anything. I'm leaning towards deletion (if no-one comes up with better refs and a good argument for keeping it) but your contention that the existence of another website (and a non-reliable one at that) with similar information is something that should be considered in the AFD is completely wrong. If you don't understand why you should probably not be opening AFDs. Meters (talk) 21:05, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Delete - Strangely, WP:TOOSOON is relevant here even though the act was formed in the 1990s. It received no reliable notice during its years as a novelty act. The guy seems to have revamped the name as a serious political grindcore act in 2018, and this got some coverage in the East Bay Express and Dallas Observer articles listed in the above discussion. So there is a little bit of media notice now but I don't think it's quite enough to merit a Wikipedia article, and I can find nothing else beyond the usual concert announcements. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:30, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Doomsdayer520 conclusions jibe with mine. I'm open to reconsidering if anyone finds better sourcing then I did. Meters (talk) 21:25, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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