Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carmeli's cosmological relativity
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The result was DELETE, however weakly. postdlf (talk) 02:59, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:FRINGE. Describes a one-author theory with virtually no citations in the mainstream literature. Bm gub (talk) 19:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC) Bm gub (talk) 19:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Weak delete - not entirely non-notable, see [1]. Bearian (talk) 20:42, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete per Bearian's evidence. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:43, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Let me comment on that. I did a search like this before AfD'ing. Note that several of these are well-known fringe/crackpot journals (Foundations of Physics Letters), and several more are unpublished ArXiV preprints or unrefereed conference talks (see Wikipedia:Reliable_source_examples#arXiv_preprints_and_conference_abstracts). The only one with any claim to be a mainstream refereed journal is Int. J. Theor. Phys., and that one has attracted citations only from Carmeli himself and his coauthors---and the citations are nowhere except, again, the ArXiV, Foundations of Physics again, "Creation" (!!), and ITJP again. If this were a notable theory, you'd be seeing citations from review articles, observers, etc., in journals like ApJ. Bm gub (talk) 23:00, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Let me be clear, too: the theory is pure junk science, but it has gotten some press, just not enough to pass WP:FRINGE. This is a borderline case. Bearian (talk) 20:29, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Let me comment on that. I did a search like this before AfD'ing. Note that several of these are well-known fringe/crackpot journals (Foundations of Physics Letters), and several more are unpublished ArXiV preprints or unrefereed conference talks (see Wikipedia:Reliable_source_examples#arXiv_preprints_and_conference_abstracts). The only one with any claim to be a mainstream refereed journal is Int. J. Theor. Phys., and that one has attracted citations only from Carmeli himself and his coauthors---and the citations are nowhere except, again, the ArXiV, Foundations of Physics again, "Creation" (!!), and ITJP again. If this were a notable theory, you'd be seeing citations from review articles, observers, etc., in journals like ApJ. Bm gub (talk) 23:00, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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